Enough with GGG vs Ward, How about Ward vs Kovalev?

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Ward vs Kova will get made next year now that GGG has completed the duck

[New England]

kovalev's schedule is pretty full at present, but both parties are looking at that fight at some point in '16. there's a dan rafael article on it, but nobody is going to read it if i post it



ward - kovalev at 175 is the best fight in boxing. i'd like to see andre ward fight one top or two 10ers at 175 lbs and get ready to take this fight on ppv in the spring or next fall.

[AKAcronym]

Abel Sanchez was the one, running around and talking crazy, yet Golovkin nor anyone else in the camp felt the need to quell him. Was even talking about how Golovkin was wrecking Kovalev in sparring, to the point of embarrassing him.

If you're camp is that out front, you either cut down the nonsense, or you stand by the camp and deal with whatever comes of it. To expect that, as a middleweight, a fighter's camp can talk down three entire weight classes, be happy to go to the full weight to take on two other fighters in the top 10 of said weight, yet turn ***** once the kingpin comes knocking about said open challenge, without any repercussions, is a bit much.

I don't necessarily agree with how Abel has gone around saying the things he has, but it's part of his job to sell his fighter, especially that Golovkin isn't the type to go around saying anything of the sort. But, despite whether you believe Sanchez to be a/an (insert negative epithet), he has done a great job of getting Gennady where he is today, in terms of exposure. Knock him all you want, but they had to do something to get this unknown commodity become a risk worth taking for other fighters. His resume obviouly is lacking, but to do what they've done in 3 years to get to this point, you gotta tip your hat for that at least. So hopefully soon, the money will be there for big fights to get made.

[brettWall]

You people need to forget about this fight. Ward can't even show interest in 3G without looking fake, let alone Kovalev.

You just have to focus on Ward vs 3G, and let's put pressure on them making the fight next year. Believe me, 3G vs Cotto/Canelo winner won't happen right away.

Ward vs Golovkin in 2016. Let's make it happen!

[New England]

You people need to forget about this fight. Ward can't even show interest in 3G without looking fake, let alone Kovalev.

You just have to focus on Ward vs 3G, and let's put pressure on them making the fight next year. Believe me, 3G vs Cotto/Canelo winner won't happen right away.

Ward vs Golovkin in 2016. Let's make it happen!

ward's people have been in talks with kovalev's for several months. they're looking at that fight on PPV in '16. both sides.

the fight is 100% possible if fans are willing to pay for it on PPV. both guys get "a side" money that HBO can't pay to both sides. neither will take a paycut for the biggest fight of his career, obviously.


call for this fight., don't block it.


just don't be shy about paying the 60-70 american for it.

[Scipio2009]

I don't necessarily agree with how Abel has gone around saying the things he has, but it's part of his job to sell his fighter, especially that Golovkin isn't the type to go around saying anything of the sort. But, despite whether you believe Sanchez to be a/an (insert negative epithet), he has done a great job of getting Gennady where he is today, in terms of exposure. Knock him all you want, but they had to do something to get this unknown commodity become a risk worth taking for other fighters. His resume obviouly is lacking, but to do what they've done in 3 years to get to this point, you gotta tip your hat for that at least. So hopefully soon, the money will be there for big fights to get made.

Sanchez wrote a check that Golovkin's backend can't cash, and things have gotten to the point that, mixing metaphors, Andre Ward is about to force the entire camp into bankruptcy.

Because, for all the work that Sanchez has done, Golovkin is now in a position where boxing fans are gonna start expecting him to deliver on all of the words from Sanchez, and the only big fight for him is, tbh, a PPV fight with Ward (Cotto isn't going to fight him, Canelo is literally a month away from being Golden Boy's only marketable fighter, and HBO isn't going to put up the big payday for Golovkin-Johnson or Golovkin-Heiland).

For a guy who was as decorated an amateur as Golovkin was, who ended up getting to Abel Sanchez as basically a completed pro fighter, the fact that he's still can crushing, three years into an HBO megapush, is embarrassing.

[STREET CLEANER]

That is the fight that has to be made in the very near future

[AKAcronym]

Sanchez wrote a check that Golovkin's backend can't cash, and things have gotten to the point that, mixing metaphors, Andre Ward is about to force the entire camp into bankruptcy.

Because, for all the work that Sanchez has done, Golovkin is now in a position where boxing fans are gonna start expecting him to deliver on all of the words from Sanchez, and the only big fight for him is, tbh, a PPV fight with Ward (Cotto isn't going to fight him, Canelo is literally a month away from being Golden Boy's only marketable fighter, and HBO isn't going to put up the big payday for Golovkin-Johnson or Golovkin-Heiland).

For a guy who was as decorated an amateur as Golovkin was, who ended up getting to Abel Sanchez as basically a completed pro fighter, the fact that he's still can crushing, three years into an HBO megapush, is embarrassing.

I don't know what you mean by that but whatever. It's actually a good thing that we expect Golovkin to deliver on Sanchez's words. You guys complain about him not having a resume, well now he's in the position to start getting those names. And Ward is not his only big fight, hate to break it to you. It's more that Golovkin is the only big fight for Ward. Ward/Kovalev is a great match-up but that probably wouldn't be as big as GGG/Ward. You can argue about Canelo or Cotto not fighting him, but we don't know that yet, so you can't automatically rule them out and go straight about Ward. And no fighter is ever a "completed" pro fighter. And you of course had to reference his whole resume as "cans," which is the convenient argument to make. We're not going to agree so it's best we just end here.

[Scipio2009]

I don't know what you mean by that but whatever. It's actually a good thing that we expect Golovkin to deliver on Sanchez's words. You guys complain about him not having a resume, well now he's in the position to start getting those names. And Ward is not his only big fight, hate to break it to you. It's more that Golovkin is the only big fight for Ward. Ward/Kovalev is a great match-up but that probably wouldn't be as big as GGG/Ward. You can argue about Canelo or Cotto not fighting him, but we don't know that yet, so you can't automatically rule them out and go straight about Ward. And no fighter is ever a "completed" pro fighter. And you of course had to reference his whole resume as "cans," which is the convenient argument to make. We're not going to agree so it's best we just end here.

Ward smashing Golovkin, in the manner that most Golovkin fans are fearful of, will have K2 go from having this "destroyer with a smile that everyone is deathly afraid of" to having a 33-year old middleweight, who isn't indestructible, left to fight in a 160lb division that is in a deep lull. All of the heat basically vanishes in a single fight.

People are significantly overstating the options actually available to Golovkin. Cotto/Canelo are unlikely to take the fight, especially if Team Golovkin tries to dictate weight, Quillin/Jacobs/Lee/etc are all with/affiliated to Al Haymon and PBC, and Golovkin seems not willing to go up even one weight class.

If the Cotto/Canelo situation goes as many people expect (with both passing on the fight), who is out there for Golovkin to fight?

[Calculating...]

John David Jackson (Kov's trainer) said it best.

" If you do not possess the power to keep Kovalev off of you, you won't last ". I have a hard time picturing Ward attempting to clinch when the master Hopkins was just played so professionally (regardless of age, Hopkins is one of a kind)

Don't get me wrong, Ward has a chance and he's a wonderful boxer despite his boring style... but Kovalev is something else, what a ****ing beast!!