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It was fun arguing with you joseph5620 but i gotta get some sleep. :ANWOD:
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"Joe Louis was a hundred and three years old!!!"
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there are some of his opponents who do not have name recognition...along with the opponents who do. This is not atypical. Some of these guys were undefeated in over 25 fights...surely you are not saying Gatti is a better win than an undefeated heavyweight with a record of over 25 victories? you assume because there were journeymen who were no doubt known at the time, that these were bad fighters. How will guys like Ortez look in 70 years from now? when Floyd's record is being assessed?
Look Dan let me put this is a "big picture way" since I am a big picture kind of guy: If we compare Joe Calzaghe to Roy Jones junior, there is no question that Roy fought much stronger fighters, and his record indicates that much. This includes when he fought them, the lack of whom Cazighe fought, etc.
If Roy and Joe both had the same undefeated streak and amount of wins, and you made the case that Roy was in a different class BASED on the quality of opposition he fought to attain the record that would be a legitimate example of your point. There is no commensurate point to be made in this case imo.Comment
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meh. i don't like his reasoning, but can't expect him to be unbiased either.Comment
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Cherry picker means at what time is it good to fight for your benefit
Floyd has a lot of old past their prime fighters on his list of beaten fighters, Oscar, well past his prime almost beat Floyd, did in my opinion, Shane was 40+ and still almost knocked Floyd out, PAC, everybody knows if they'd fought in prime Floyd gets severely hurt. The list goes on and on. Floyd has never Tkoed none of the greats, but you all call this cat great. Floyd made a fool out of the younger followers of boxing because he could. Keep in mind, Floyd's style changed to hit and run like hell when Castillo beat Floyd in their first fight easy. Not any of the commentators or public believed Floyd won that fight, not even him. Yes he won the rematch by running and staying out of the way, like he did for the rest of his career. True record 48-1. Would have been worse record if he fought the greats when he was suppose to. He is still in the top 50 fighters of all time near the bottom. Know your true history, don't follow politics of boxing and become wise. That's wisdom.Comment
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And Floyd has how many good wins?
A fight against ODLH that could have gone either way?
Manny Pacquiao at the end of both career's?
That's it, Floyd career is hollow and overrated, certainly wouldn't consider Cotto that great of a win especially when someone like Trout and Margarito are beating you.Comment
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Pacquaio - 6 years too late
Corrales - Nothing more than a slugger
Castillo - An average fighter still capable of beating Floyd, Floyd hurt his shoulder doe
Cotto - Past his prime, went on to lose to Austin Trout lol
Canelo - Now he is good?
Hatton - Hahahaha!
De La Hoya - Coming off of how many losses before he fought him?
Mosley - OLD
Hernandez - BUM
Chavez - Same guy who lost to mighty Kasitidis?
Marquez - Career featherweight
Judah - Always failed at the final blocks
Ortiz -
Floyd had to cheat to beat him aswell smh
Guerreo - Flat footed plodder absolutely terrible
Famaso - Who lmao
That's a terrible list when you factor in all the bull****.Comment
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