Comments Thread For: Rocky Marciano's Son Reacts To Mayweather's 49-0 Win

[mezoomozaa]

I think both records are worthless, still agree with his point that HW is much less worthless than Floyd's feather-fisted opponents.

[M Bison]

I think both records are worthless, still agree with his point that HW is much less worthless than Floyd's feather-fisted opponents.

Jr has a point though, Marciano fought a fan friendly fashion in an era where men were men he did this 49 times and never once did he get KOed, could Floyd have done that?
I highly doubt it.

[wengz2005]

Mayweather tying Marciano's record means nothing!
Rocky did it for 8 yrs while Floyd took 19 years!

Besides, Floyd cherry pick his opponents!
I have not seen Marciano's fight, but I'm sure back in the day there's no cherry picking!

[b00g13man]

I have not seen Marciano's fight, but I'm sure back in the day there's no cherry picking!

This just might be the dumbest thing I've read on these forums, and that's saying a lot.

[M Bison]

Mayweather tying Marciano's record means nothing!
Rocky did it for 8 yrs while Floyd took 19 years!

Besides, Floyd cherry pick his opponents!
I have not seen Marciano's fight, but I'm sure back in the day there's no cherry picking!

Not as much cherry picking back then in comparison to Floyd Mayweather little facade of a career.
You should definitely take a look at his fights they're highly entertaining
Jersey Joe Walcott Vs Rocky Marciano
That would be a great one to start off with, you don't watch a Marciano fight and feel like you've wasted time unlike some fighters of this era.

[IronDanHamza]

we compared their better wins already...this serves no purpose.

Er, no we haven't. I must have missed it.

It serves all kinda of purposes.

I just listed 15 for Floyd now list me 15 for Marciano and we will see which one is better.

Simple.

[IronDanHamza]

there are some of his opponents who do not have name recognition...along with the opponents who do. This is not atypical. Some of these guys were undefeated in over 25 fights...surely you are not saying Gatti is a better win than an undefeated heavyweight with a record of over 25 victories? you assume because there were journeymen who were no doubt known at the time, that these were bad fighters. How will guys like Ortez look in 70 years from now? when Floyd's record is being assessed?

Look Dan let me put this is a "big picture way" since I am a big picture kind of guy: If we compare Joe Calzaghe to Roy Jones junior, there is no question that Roy fought much stronger fighters, and his record indicates that much. This includes when he fought them, the lack of whom Cazighe fought, etc.

If Roy and Joe both had the same undefeated streak and amount of wins, and you made the case that Roy was in a different class BASED on the quality of opposition he fought to attain the record that would be a legitimate example of your point. There is no commensurate point to be made in this case imo.

There is no assumption at all coming from my part.

I didn't even name Arturo Gatti once in this thread nor did I list him in Floyd's list of wins.

How about just list me all the fighters Marciano fought who were ranked in the top 10? Or will you avoid the question?

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather tying Marciano's record means nothing!
Rocky did it for 8 yrs while Floyd took 19 years!

Besides, Floyd cherry pick his opponents!
I have not seen Marciano's fight, but I'm sure back in the day there's no cherry picking!

you should have stopped at 7 posts because this one, #8, is one of the most ******ed things ever posted on NSB, which is impressive because the list of ******ed NSB posts is like the ATG list of boxers, is virtually impossible to crack the top 5.

You managed to do the impossible. Kudos.

[Str8RightHand]

Once again.. for a third time...Anyone who has studied the HISTORY of boxing, and kept their feelings at bay, would tell you that Marciano and Mayweather's records are not even comparable. Mayweather has crossed many weight classes and held multiple titles. P4P, half of his career has been a championship defense with quality opponents. People talk but their words never match facts.

FACTS:
Look at their opponents:
Marciano overall totals: 1536 / 529 (66% winning percentage) = D class opposition
Mayweather overall totals: 1394 / 211 (85% winning percentage) = B class opposition

Marciano first 30 fights: 560 / 307 (66% winning percentage) = D class opposition
Mayweather first 30 fights: 669 / 151 (78% winning percentage) = C class opposition

Where it really gets ugly is when you compare the last third of their careers

Marciano last 19 fights: 976 / 222 (78% winning percentage) = C class opposition
Mayweather last 19 fights: 725 / 60 (92% winning percentage) = A class opposition

...class dismissed

[Str8RightHand]

Bunch of morons who think sports athletes don't get better with time. You can't compare 50's boxing to today, today is much more superior. They punched meat then they just walked into the ring and started bleeding, then they left and did it again 3 weeks later. Dudes today have strength and conditioning coaches, protein shakes, improved calisthenics, better technique. That era formed the basis for the future of boxing and should be respected, but to imply its fighters are better is ******ed. That's like saying sprinter Jesse Owens was better than Usain Bolt... foh