Andre Ward trying to get IBO title shot against Zac Dunn

[2shameless]

Avoided? golovkin and his team turned down the two best guys that called him out lol gtfo

You mean the same way Ward's turned down Kovalev calling him out and Floyd turned down GGG calling him out? Doesn't change the fact that GGG has been avoided by Sturm, Martinez, Cotto, Quillin, Chavez Jr and Froch, among others. Meanwhile Ward is fighting the Smith's of the world at 172 lb CWs while chasing the Zac Dunn's of the world.

[Beercules]

Abraham became available and i said i would like to see that fight and got those REDK some boys love to give out for mentioning it. Another champion, another belt, unifying fight and got hated on for it.

He already fought and beat Abraham doe.

[Fetta]

ok well the guy who has been trying to fight good comp is ggg and not ward. we have the last 4 years as evidence of that.! ggg has been trying and is fighting good comp. ward has not been trying and isn't fighting good comp. unless you count saying i want to fight ggg after ggg already signed to fight someone else which i am sure you will since that is what fanboys do.

GGG is finally fighting a live body, if you wanna call Lemieux that. I will cause its a step in the right direction but its the 1st step.

but you will say its cause no one wants to fight him and boo hoo hoo, he wants to unify first, CW 164, A-side, cause thats what fanboys do.

[Fetta]

He already fought and beat Abraham doe.

Yes i know but rematches happen all the time and Abraham holds a belt.

I was just saying its better than most other fights for Ward at the moment.

[Eastcoast]

Yes but Wards fight with Dawson was far far far more meaniful than GGG's career of stay busy fights. Casuals love KO's they dont care about matchups


"We're talking about fights that generate publicity and buzz"
and i agree with this ^^^ and have been trying to explain that to some on this thread

In terms of a resume the Dawson was much bigger until after the fight when Scully & Dawson revealed how the weight affected Chad, and then for Stevenson to out do Andre's win at the full 175 shortly after. Most knowledgable fans don't rate Andre's win over Chad as that meaningful on his resume anymore. It was further disappointing for Andre to turn down the Stevenson offer, as it would've addressed this.

Anyhow, sports are about what have you done lately, and it's been 3 years since Dawson and 4 years since Froch. This guy needs a popular fight baaaaaaad.

[Fetta]

In terms of a resume the Dawson was much bigger until after the fight when Scully & Dawson revealed how the weight affected Chad, and then for Stevenson to out do Andre's win at the full 175 shortly after. Most knowledgable fans don't rate Andre's win over Chad as that meaningful on his resume anymore. It was further disappointing for Andre to turn down the Stevenson offer, as it would've addressed this.

Anyhow, sports are about what have you done lately, and it's been 3 years since Dawson and 4 years since Froch. This guy needs a popular fight baaaaaaad.

Yes i agree Ward does need a big fight but GGG has been fighting "cans" till Lemiuex, which hasnt happened yet, so lets not put him on that pedestal just yet.

And like i said im a GGG fan but not delusional like some

[Beercules]

Yes i know but rematches happen all the time and Abraham holds a belt.

I was just saying its better than most other fights for Ward at the moment.

Ward shouldn't have to be fighting guys he already beat years ago, there's nothing for him at 168.


He had his tune up, let him fight a guy like Fonfara at 175 then get the pay day/exposure he wants against Kovalev or Stevenson.


LHW is the right move for Ward now, not staying at SMW fighting Paul Smith's.

[From Russia]

Comparing a Mayweather fight to a Golovkin fight?

Hasn't Golovkin said the same, he'll only go to 154 for Mayweather?

If Ward can make 160 for Mayweather, than sure as **** he can make 164 for GGG. And there is a difference:

Biggest fights for GGG are Cotto and Canelo, not Ward. Biggest fight for Ward is only GGG (Well Kovalev too, but i think he wont fight Kovalev)

[2shameless]

Ward shouldn't have to be fighting guys he already beat years ago, there's nothing for him at 168.


He had his tune up, let him fight a guy like Fonfara at 175 then get the pay day/exposure he wants against Kovalev or Stevenson.


LHW is the right move for Ward now, not staying at SMW fighting Paul Smith's.

Fonfara would be a great 2nd fight at LHW for Ward in preparation for Kovalev or Stevenson. Funny how Ward stans are so vehemently against GGG fighting anyone at 168 in preparation for Ward.

[DLX]

Yes i agree Ward does need a big fight but GGG has been fighting "cans" till Lemiuex, which hasnt happened yet, so lets not put him on that pedestal just yet.

And like i said im a GGG fan but not delusional like some

I think it's just that GGG makes it look so easy. No one was saying Martinez was fighting cans when he fought Macklin and Murray. GGG is fighting the only MWs willing to fight him. I think Murray vs Lemeux is a 50/50 fight.