Comments Thread For: Team GGG: Ward Not The A-Side, Can't Dictate Terms

[Beater_of_ass]

ward isn't fighting on that undercard anyway so drop that.why are you talking about facts then go on to make **** up such as ward selling out in oakland that never happened.if anything ward's popularity is going down not up.

You work for RocNation? You say I'm making up facts about sell outs but yet know the undercard already? Where RocNation reps have already stated it's an option and they're discussing it? But you're the one with real facts? LMAO!!!

Also, I said sold out then I checked to see if that was the case. It wasn' it was 8,000 and that's the number I gave you. 8,000 in the seats is better than people leaving during the main even like what happened with Rigo. So, as stated. Ward is already more well known than Rigo and putting him on a PPV in front of 1 million buyers will give him more exposure than headlining a 250k PPV.

Stay mad, but again these are just facts. More people will see Ward fight than will see GGG fight, should Ward be on the Cotto/Canelo undercard.

[youbeight]

Same reason Alvarez had to concede to Cotto. Alvarez is the A-side economically, but he's also favored to win. Cotto needs to be paid to take a likely defeat and Alvarez goes along with it because even as a B-side to Cotto, he's still making more than he would as an A-side to someone else.

Bad example. Alvarez on his own couldn't produce ppv longevity,they said he was the reason Floyd and him did 2.2 mill ppv buys but on his own barely broke 300k despite being on countless Floyd undercards. Cotto over the years has shown he can headline and co-star successful ppvs for the most part as well as sell notable fights in heavily based boxing cities that generate revenue. Cotto was always the a side bc cotto would only take a b side to Floyd or manny. Anyone not named those two would have to meet on cottos term bc he's been a constant revenue generating boxer with a HOF resume and multiple world titles.

[Beater_of_ass]

you don't know **** about business. boxing is a business.

Business has nothing to do with resume which is the discussion. I'm done with you, talking **** on Ward and have no clue about his accomplishments and how they **** all over what GGG has done. Come back to me when you've learned some things.

[Beater_of_ass]

Same reason Alvarez had to concede to Cotto. Alvarez is the A-side economically, but he's also favored to win. Cotto needs to be paid to take a likely defeat and Alvarez goes along with it because even as a B-side to Cotto, he's still making more than he would as an A-side to someone else.

That Oscar is broke and needs this fight? That's all it comes down to.

[Eastcoast]

People buy too much into the lies of the GGG camp . Bottom line is this , GGG and team claim they was begging for this fight in the past , but it was during the time of Wards contractual stifling and there was never a catch weight ever mentioned as they clearly understood they would need to go to 168 for Ward . As soon as Ward comes out of his contractual confinement , u then here nothing from the GGG camp . So Ward calls them out and says I'm ready now let's rock then the GGG camp knowing they never really wanted any piece of Ward to begin with say : ok 50/50 split but only at 164 . They realized that since his come back fight was at 172 he probably may be having some trouble making 168 and therefore they knew 164 was an impossibility . They claim to be the A-side but have used Wards name non-stop to continue the hype and hoopla awhile finding ingenious ways to avoid him = THEY WEAVE SOME SPECTACULAR SPIN

Ya'll must have forgot - it was during Ward's litigation with Goosen that he said he was still clear to take fights and had his attorney sent HBO the email to be read after Golovkin/Rubio - He’ll fight him anywhere, anyplace, and anytime.

Andre Ward is the guy who rejected fights with an undefeated Lucian Bute and newly crowned Adonis Stevenson and instead signed to fight a clearly shot Kelly Pavlik.

[Wizardsh]

Both are widely regarded as top-tier P4P fighters but GGG's still looking for a major showcase scalp, whereas Ward is universally recognised as the top man at SM. That makes Ward 60/40 A-side if you ignore that hype.

That doesn't mean you are the a side just because you are the best at your weight class if you don't sell tickets you ain't a side, really don't understand what is so hard to understand about that

[PulpFriction]

Sanchez is right "Andre Ward wants to have everything his way." except Ward can't draw flies to sht. Ward needs GGG, period.

[Eastcoast]

Bad example. Alvarez on his own couldn't produce ppv longevity,they said he was the reason Floyd and him did 2.2 mill ppv buys but on his own barely broke 300k despite being on countless Floyd undercards. Cotto over the years has shown he can headline and co-star successful ppvs for the most part as well as sell notable fights in heavily based boxing cities that generate revenue. Cotto was always the a side bc cotto would only take a b side to Floyd or manny. Anyone not named those two would have to meet on cottos term bc he's been a constant revenue generating boxer with a HOF resume and multiple world titles.

What are you talking about? The fact that you just questioned that shows how little you know.

Cotto/Martinez = 315k buys
Alvarez/Lara = 300k buys
Alvarez/Angulo = 350k buys

Cotto/Mayweather = 1.5mill buys
Alaverz/Mayweather = 2.2mill buys


Cotto/Geale = 1.6mill views
Alvarez/Kirkland = 2.1mill views

[Beater_of_ass]

What are you talking about? The fact that you just questioned that shows how little you know.

Cotto/Martinez = 315k buys
Alvarez/Lara = 300k buys
Alvarez/Angulo = 350k buys

Cotto/Mayweather = 1.5mill buys
Alaverz/Mayweather = 2.2mill buys


Cotto/Geale = 1.6mill views
Alvarez/Kirkland = 2.1mill views Manny vs Pac replay

His two showings that did more than Cotto both involved Floyd. Look at this list without Floyd compared to Canelo's.

Cotto/Manny 1.25 million
Cotto/Marg II 600k
Cotto/Marg I 500k
Cotto/Mosley 450k

[youbeight]

What are you talking about? The fact that you just questioned that shows how little you know.

Cotto/Martinez = 315k buys
Alvarez/Lara = 300k buys
Alvarez/Angulo = 350k buys

Cotto/Mayweather = 1.5mill buys
Alaverz/Mayweather = 2.2mill buys


Cotto/Geale = 1.6mill views
Alvarez/Kirkland = 2.1mill views

I said PPV longevity. Cotto has been on ppv since 2007. For someone like cotto who's done almost 10 ppv events, they wouldn't have kept him on ppv if it wasn't generating $. As far as Alvarez for someone who's been on countless Floyd (1 mill) ppvs, headline the 3rd largest ppv event, and his only ppv headliners are 1/3 of that, I wouldn't call that successful, not to mention canelo Kirkland was paired with the mayweather-pacquiao re-air