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  • #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    ok, this is 1 person dude. You don't kill something because 1 person can't find it. The problem is you are treating PBC like it's Scandal. I treat it as any sport-I find the sport no matter what channel it's on.

    Besides, we are in the digital age of TV/cable. you type boxing in and every show comes up. I mean a ****ing monkey can literally find pbc in 90 seconds.

    My guess is for now he has to keep time buys because (you wouldn't answer yesterday when I asked you) ESPN will not be able to give prime time once college football, NFL, NCAA and NBA get started as they have other commitments.

    I mean really dude, how much effort does it take to find boxing on cable/directTV/AppleTV in 2015?

    You're taking my advice of how PBC can flourish waaaay too personal. I'm only suggesting ways it can be better and capture more viewership. I'm not one of those posters here who hope it crashes and burns. I want to see it thrive, but in its current form of network/time/date hopping, it will be hard to gain any traction. The truth is the truth. Again.....Tuesday night fights with its consistent date/time/channel is definitely a step in the right direction. Now if he can do that with ESPN it will be another step in the right direction. Consumers of any product want consistency.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by MasterPlan View Post
      You're not gonna get a fanbase by just keeping it on one network for one day a week.

      What if I can't watch TV on Friday? But I can catch it Tuesday. I can't watch a Sat night event, but can watch a Sat afternoon show?
      Tell that to the creator of the show EMPIRE that's on once a week on the same channel at the same time and on the same day and averaged 16 million views per episode. Same for a show like Game of Thrones.

      Also, ever heard of DVR?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
        So the people you work with are too ****** to use google or a channel guide? Sounds like a real high profile job.
        People actually have lives and cannot be bothered to have to search to find a particular broadcast. Last year was the final season of the original CSI and I missed the first half of the season because they had moved the show to a different day and a different time slot. Reruns of the previous season ended and then no new episodes were broadcast. I was not about to start doing a search for a ****ing television show and I watch so little network television that if they advertised the move, I did not see it.

        I only discovered it when looking for some info on IMDB and there was an article on the main page that CSI was returning to it's regular time slot for the final few shows.

        I cannot be bothered to look for boxing on almost a dozen channels, most of which are not available in Canada and others which are optional choice channels. This is the world we live in today, one with hundreds of channels and thousands of choices. Boxing will never be what it once was. It is now a fringe sport and will remain so right up until the day it ceases to exist altogether.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
          You're taking my advice of how PBC can flourish waaaay too personal. I'm only suggesting ways it can be better and capture more viewership. I'm not one of those posters here who hope it crashes and burns. I want to see it thrive, but in its current form of network/time/date hopping, it will be hard to gain any traction. The truth is the truth. Again.....Tuesday night fights with its consistent date/time/channel is definitely a step in the right direction. Now if he can do that with ESPN it will be another step in the right direction. Consumers of any product want consistency.
          I haven't said you were hoping it fails. I'm not taking it personally, Its just mind boggling to read there is an inability to find something in 2015 on your TV.

          No, its you opinion. I think the major problem is the need to grow the fanbase by attracting younger viewers is. Programming on multiple channels and times gives you the best chance to grow the fanbase, which is important.

          Obviously, Haymon needs to get to the point where he is making money, not losing it. I just do not see wher NBC, CBS or ESPN can give him regular prime time spots to do what you are suggesting.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
            Tell that to the creator of the show EMPIRE that's on once a week on the same channel at the same time and on the same day and averaged 16 million views per episode. Same for a show like Game of Thrones.

            Also, ever heard of DVR?
            Those are TV shows, not sports Deveel916. Why would compare PBC to these?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
              Yes he's putting on a ton of boxing, but many of these fights are pointless. Start a tournament and throw big advertising behind it. Sports fans want to see competitiveness. Not showcase fights where one fighter is almost guaranteed to win, and if this is the case, at least make the fight has a strong possibility of ending with a dramatic KO in order to draw casual fans in who will want to see it again.
              I think he wants to showcase some of these guys to a broader audience first before making these mini tourneys. The fights would mean a lot to us but not so much to these newer audiences. Now if they've seen khan,Garcia,Thurman, and Porter fight 1 showcase and maybe 1 solid match now all of the sudden the fights mean much more. They have an idea of each guys style,their background, they've picked the guy they associate the most with etc... I'd say the matchups on PBC so far have been good... Not great ... But the potential is definitely there and whenever he decides to turn up the heat I can't see HBO being able to keep up... They simply don't have enough fire power.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Those are TV shows, not sports Deveel916. Why would compare PBC to these?
                My point is, if they were to bounce these shows around on different networks on different days and different times, it will lose all traction from its dedicated viewers and will sink.

                Same thing applies to any viewing product.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  I haven't said you were hoping it fails. I'm not taking it personally, Its just mind boggling to read there is an inability to find something in 2015 on your TV.

                  No, its you opinion. I think the major problem is the need to grow the fanbase by attracting younger viewers is. Programming on multiple channels and times gives you the best chance to grow the fanbase, which is important.

                  Obviously, Haymon needs to get to the point where he is making money, not losing it. I just do not see wher NBC, CBS or ESPN can give him regular prime time spots to do what you are suggesting.
                  This is where we disagree. I dont think that's a winning formula.

                  Establish a go to network to watch boxing on a set time and date is how you grow your fanbase.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                    Tell that to the creator of the show EMPIRE that's on once a week on the same channel at the same time and on the same day and averaged 16 million views per episode. Same for a show like Game of Thrones.

                    Also, ever heard of DVR?
                    So just DVR all of the PBC events, if it's so confusing?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                      My point is, if they were to bounce these shows around on different networks on different days and different times, it will lose all traction from its dedicated viewers and will sink.

                      Same thing applies to any viewing product.
                      If you already had advertisers for this show, then I would agree. Without that or a commitment from a network, they have to do time buys.

                      Scandal wouldn't be made if it was a time buy.

                      Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                      This is where we disagree. I dont think that's a winning formula.

                      Establish a go to network to watch boxing on a set time and date is how you grow your fanbase.
                      That's fine. we are in the era where many people watch "TV" shows and sports on their laptops and phones. the old way of doing things, even those that have proven to be successful, may need to be changed or tweaked.

                      a regular weekly/monthly show-I think that is the way they will go once you have a commitment from a network and advertisers.

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