All I know is that Kova is likely going to win on Sat night (nothing is a given) and he will be calling out Ward. I fully expect Ward-Kovalev to be made next, if not, Ward is ducking. That is the end of the story, no excuses guys, it will be painful.
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Originally posted by mathed View PostPlease stop....
http://boxrec.com/records
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ndre-ward-back
http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/pound-for-pound
Not even a hardcore GGG fan but people like you force me to seem like one. Ring is crazy but even they have him at #4 P4P. That is the farthest down the list you will probably find him.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostThere was a poll on here asking who should be higher ranked Kovalev or Golovkin, 90% picked Kovalev. Non of those agree, their ratings are ****.
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Originally posted by mathed View Postlol, what's your point. NSB has a better rating system than ESPN, Boxrec and Ring? I guess but my point is that a consensus exists amongst "professional" boxing organizations that say GGG is top 4 P4P.
Go boxrec that.
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Originally posted by mathed View PostPlease stop....
http://boxrec.com/records
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ndre-ward-back
http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/pound-for-pound
Not even a hardcore GGG fan but people like you force me to seem like one. Ring is crazy but even they have him at #4 P4P. That is the farthest down the list you will probably find him.
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Originally posted by mathed View PostAll I know is that Kova is likely going to win on Sat night (nothing is a given) and he will be calling out Ward. I fully expect Ward-Kovalev to be made next, if not, Ward is ducking. That is the end of the story, no excuses guys, it will be painful.
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Originally posted by BreWall View PostThat's what is expected IF Kovalev wins. And I think fans would prefer Kovalev vs Ward, instead of GG vs Ward. Let's see what happens.
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That's what is expected IF Kovalev wins. And I think fans would prefer Kovalev vs Ward, instead of GG vs Ward. Let's see what happens.
All I know is that Kova is likely going to win on Sat night (nothing is a given) and he will be calling out Ward. I fully expect Ward-Kovalev to be made next, if not, Ward is ducking. That is the end of the story, no excuses guys, it will be painful.
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Originally posted by BertoRollin' View PostHe currently has an offer on the table to fight Andre Ward at 168. A win for GGG over Andre Ward does the following for his career:
1. Puts him #1 on the pound for pound list upon the retirement of Floyd Mayweather
2. Makes him the biggest star in the sport of boxing
3. Makes him a title holder in 2 weight divisions with the opportunity to be lineal champ in 2 weight divisions simultaneously
4. Puts him into the hall of fame immediately (with his current streak of title defenses and his pound for pound status)
5. Would make him the most dominant fighter of the next era of boxing for years to come
Hall of fame fighters in the past capitalized on these opportunities:
Pac moving up 8 weight classes and jumping 2 to defeat De La Hoya
Hopkins jumping 2 to defeat Tarver
Floyd moving up 4 weight classes and moving up to defeat De La Hoya
Jones moving up from MW to HW and winning titles in 4 weight divisions
Duran moving up 2 to defeat Leonard and winning titles at 160 after starting his career at 119
Leonard winning the MW title after starting out at welterweight
Robinson, Armstrong and numerous others all moved up.
Now let's address these counter arguments from the stanboys:
Why don't Floyd be great and move up to fight GGG?
Answer: Floyd's legacy in boxing is established. Now it's GGGs turn.
Hagler never moved up
Answer: Because 168 wasn't really a recognized/established division yet. And if he had the opportunity to face one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world by moving up, I believe he would.
Moving up is easier for smaller fighters
See Hopkins and Jones above
Does Ward fear greatness by not moving up to fight Kovalev?
Yes. And he missed out on another opportunity for greatness by not moving up to defeat Dawson.
Discuss!!!
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