Andre ward says he's ready and available to fight gennnady golovkin:

[Raonic]

Top Rank's share of Mayweather-Pacquiao was said to be $150m, $50m of which got paid out to Top Rank. Koncz gets his $22.5m (15%), Roach takes his $10m-$15m share. Add in the camp expenses and paying back the purse advances, and Pacquiao maybe walked away with $50m-$60m plus his sponsorships.

Factor in ~$52m (35%) to cover taxes and Pacquiao basically made nothing on the fight.

At least Pacquiao would've made some money off of the $40m flat purse ($12m to Arum, $6m to Koncz, $4m-$5m to Pacquiao, and $14m in taxes, still leave Pacquiao with $3m heading into his pocket plus his sponsorships).

LOL I'd like to see where you got these numbers.

[MarsinLeo]

Trinidad was a middleweight champion. Hell even Oscar had a belt and he challenged Bernard. In order for Hopkins to unify the division he had to fight these guys. Hopkins didn't make anyone come up to him they came to him and were already there. Trinidad beat Joppy for a MW title and Oscar got the decision over Sturm.



Likewise, Golovkin is trying to unify HIS OWN division. Cotto is lineal middleweight champion and WBC title holder, you know the belt Golovkin is mandatory to. Of course it's only natural for Golovkin to want the belts in his own weight class (isn't that the point of boxing?). Canelo's last three fights have technically been at middleweight and we all know he's eventually going to campaign at 160, the only question is when. As for a Floyd fight, that's just a dream fight, everyone wants Floyd (even Ward). Who doesn't say they would like to fight Mayweather and earn career high paydays?




How do you duck a guy that isn't in your own weight class? A guy who wasnt even fighting for two years and just made his comeback? That's like saying Ward has been ducking Kovalev.

You make some good points regarding Hopkins/Trinidad/DLH/Middleweight tourney.

I'll give you the Tito argument b/c it is true that Hopkins was not originally supposed to be in the Middleweight tourney. So technically speaking, Trinidad was a Middleweight when they fought.

De La Hoya on the other hand was a clear cherry pick, imo. DLH was not a Middleweight. He nearly had lost his only fight there to Felix Sturm.

Even though Ward and GGG aren't in the same division, it's clear as day there is nobody of worth for GGG to fight.

Cotto is not going to fight GGG at 160. He's already made that clear. Canelo also seems like he's refusing to commit to 160. Both of those guys would rather not face GGG.

So it only makes sense to rise up in weight and take on Andre Ward. Ward wants it after his 2 year layoff. We know he had legal issues so lets stop trying to make it look like Ward just took 2 years off for the hell of it.

If GGG is as great as everyone believes he is then go up to 168 and holla at SOG.

That's what real champions do. I think a catchweight is acceptable as well.

[Raonic]

Official NYSAC numbers for GGG-Geale: 7804 tix sold, for $557,640 in revenue... #boxing

— Steve Kim (@steveucnlive) August 7, 2014

$400,000 rent, union fees, taxes, advertising etc........ They didn't make a profit.

You're only factoring in ticket revenue but want to account for all expenses? LOL.

[Eastcoast]

Did you? You brought up the numbers first.

The original assertion was the event bombed. Even if the site fee was the full $400k for partial use of the building, they still grossed over half a mill. You know how to calculate profit. You want to start tagging on other expenses when you don't even know what what the site fee includes and doesn't include, then you might as well includes other revenue sources like HBO, international tv, and sponsors.

[Scipio2009]

All that shows is GGG is underpaid. Just because Ward gets paid more from his promoters doesn't mean he also generates more money.

Ward making $2 mil off a $3 mil revenue show doesn't mean he's worth more than Golovkin making $1 mil off a show that generates like $5 million. I'm just making up the numbers but you get the idea. GGG sells more tickets at higher prices and attracts more viewers. So why wouldn't he get more than 50% of the money generated from that?

This is going to be a PPV fight, and when it comes to that, the most important thing is getting someone who is willing to pay for PPV.



You don't have to be a PPV star to dictate terms. Though I don't care if the fight is at 168. It's more about the money.

How do you explain Ward bringing in $700k at the gate for his fights in Oakland, while Golovkin is only bringing in $500k at the gate in LA?

[MarsinLeo]

It doesn't even have to be about A-side/B-side arguments. Golovkin is the one who has to move up and Ward is the one who needs Golovkin.

W/O Ward - Golovkin can fight N'Dam in October, sell 10,000 tix, get 1.5mill tv views, make over a million from HBO another million from international sales.

W/O Golovkin - Ward goes back to BET, fights in front of a paper'd house, gets maybe 500,000 tv viewers, and loses his promoter another $2mill.

LOL! Ward has more options than GGG. Cotto and Canelo aren't fighting GGG any time soon. So GGG can have fun with N'Dam, Lemiux and Andy Lee.

Meanwhile Ward can go up to 175 and fight Kov, Stevenson and even tired as Pascal.

Ward is already proven anyway.

He beat a prime Froch while GGG was trying to fight a retired Froch.

GGG still has to prove himself unlike Ward.

[R_Walken]

The fights inevitable but hope it happens sooner rather then later

Just have a feeling Loeffler will come with another lame excuse why this fight can't / wont happen this fall. K2 will say their busy negotiating with the Union To let one of their prized Janitors get the fight. But on the positive note the Janitor has the same style as Ward so in a way it's like GGG is fighting Ward so it's all good.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Of course the event bombed. They thought they would sell out MSG.

Golovkin is not the draw he's made out to be and any talk of A sides and B sides is laughable.

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fight kovalev

[PulpFriction]

Trinidad was a middleweight champion. Hell even Oscar had a belt and he challenged Bernard. In order for Hopkins to unify the division he had to fight these guys. Hopkins didn't make anyone come up to him they came to him and were already there. Trinidad beat Joppy for a MW title and Oscar got the decision over Sturm.



Likewise, Golovkin is trying to unify HIS OWN division. Cotto is lineal middleweight champion and WBC title holder, you know the belt Golovkin is mandatory to. Of course it's only natural for Golovkin to want the belts in his own weight class (isn't that the point of boxing?). Canelo's last three fights have technically been at middleweight and we all know he's eventually going to campaign at 160, the only question is when. As for a Floyd fight, that's just a dream fight, everyone wants Floyd (even Ward). Who doesn't say they would like to fight Mayweather and earn career high paydays?




How do you duck a guy that isn't in your own weight class? A guy who wasnt even fighting for two years and just made his comeback? That's like saying Ward has been ducking Kovalev.

No matter how clearly you explain, the mayweather fans will always try and find a way to spin it.