Andre ward says he's ready and available to fight gennnady golovkin:

[MrP4P]

LOL! Ward has more options than GGG. Cotto and Canelo aren't fighting GGG any time soon. So GGG can have fun with N'Dam, Lemiux and Andy Lee.

Meanwhile Ward can go up to 175 and fight Kov, Stevenson and even tired as Pascal.

Ward is already proven anyway.

He beat a prime Froch while GGG was trying to fight a retired Froch.

GGG still has to prove himself unlike Ward.

He doesnt register that. Also, GGG wont even get Lemieux until Lemieux is Canelo's leftovers. Lee would most certainly want to fight Cotto for money reasons and it being the more winnable fight

If Ward retires today hes one of the best SMW ever, a HOFer who flirted with ATG status

If GGG retired today, hes a nobody. Its really simple

I enjoy shooting down the "Ward needs GGG!" nonsense.

[Bigg Rigg]

Hey make it happen...whats the problem?

Everyone has to have a clear head. Meaning, yall ain't running **** here. And that's when things fall apart at the negotiations table. That's how Boxing is. Too many egos and too many ppl trying to son other ppl when it's time to make a fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

The original assertion was the event bombed. Even if the site fee was the full $400k for partial use of the building, they still grossed over half a mill. You know how to calculate profit. You want to start tagging on other expenses when you don't even know what what the site fee includes and doesn't include, then you might as well includes other revenue sources like HBO, international tv, and sponsors.

The site fee isn't going to include taxes and union fees on REVENUE.

HBO, TV and Sponsors don't come into the discussion about the Venue selection bombing.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

So he's saying Golovkin can't dictate anything, despite Ward being the less popular B-side who's drawing 300k viewers on free TV.

He's being nothing but a diva as usual, has to have his own way, his own ref, in his own town.

This is the same guy who says the media is pushing the fight into the future, yet he had his trainer say Ward needed 2-3 tuneups before a Golovkin fight?

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

They're trying to dictate and negotiate the fight through the media. That's rule number one. That's not going to work. You know, if you really want to fight, less talking in the media. Let's get the network involved, HBO, a great network, let's put it in their hands, put it in our teams hands; Andre Ward is available and we can make it happen,"

Where in there is he trying to dictate anything?

I even bolded it for ya. Maybe that will help.

[richardt]

The smart posters on this forum are able to take a step back and notice that the same posters who dogged Mayweather for taking 6 years to fight Pacquiao are the same posters supporting and defending Golovkin's cowardice. These are not real boxing fans. These are b*tchasses with agendas.

And the same ones who said Pac was ducking Mayweather are the same ones who are saying GGG is ducking Ward. It takes a special kind of ****** to not see it goes both ways. Open your eyes.

[Eastcoast]

Get what straight. I said nothing about being "next" you did.

Golden Boy is saving Lemieux for Canelo after he fights Cotto. How will GGG-Lemieux be appealing after he lost his fight, and belt against Canelo? Weak post is weak.

Do you have proof GB is saving Lemieux for Canelo? Please share if you do.

None of the hypothetical matchups you bring up are going to happen.

Those 'hypothetical' match ups are no less and arguably more likely to happen that the 'hypothetical' match up of Ward/Kovalev. And BTW, how much does Ward/Kovalev generate? Because right now, I doubt there's enough money on the table for Ward to even consider that fight. You think he only fights Kovalev for $3mill? I don't.

You are using "Ward isnt fighting Kovalev NOW!" to avoid my question

What big fight (be realistic) is out there for GGG besides Ward?

Realistic? Why is Lemieux/Golovkin not realistic? But personally I don't even consider that to be a big fight. But then again Ward/Golovkin isn't even a big fight in terms of being able to sell ppv's. We don't even know if that fight is realistic from an economics sense. How much is Ward planning to ask for? Alvarez/Golovkin is realistic for next year and financially would bury a Ward/Golovkin, Ward/Kovalev, Golovkin/Lemieux fights all combined.

And you keep missing the point. The FACT that Ward has the Kovalev fight as an option shows he doesnt need GGG more than GGG needs him. Even if those matchups you mention happen, when Ward fights Kovalev it will be a bigger feat than anything GGG has done in his career.

I'm not convinced Ward moves up to fight Kovalev. His whole career was about being careful. Fought all the S6 fights at in CA cept the one fight he couldn't which was the final. Made Dawson drain down to 168 rather than a CW. Signed to fight Pavlik and called out Chavez Jr while rejecting fights with Bute & Stevenson in Oakland.

My prediction on the rest of Andre Ward's career is this. I think he blows negotiations with Golovkin by holding his ground. He fights another 2-3 journeyman at 168 for $2mill a pop, losing his promoter money off HBO, and then retires bitter.

[Scipio2009]

Fine, I'll play.

Stevens vs Golovkin



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...6026--box.html

Show me where Ward generated that amount of viewers.

.... average of 1.3m viewers for Ward-Dawson and 1.2m viewers for Ward-Rodriguez.

c'mon, man

[Jubei]

People here acting so immature, if you actually watched the interview, Ward himself said HBO wants to build up the fight, he is not 100% back to his best and both would want a fight in between so the fight could happen next year.

Now it just depends what will happen till then, GGG wants to unify the MW division foremost. Canelo is fighting Cotto and if that agreement is in place that the winner HAS TO fight GGG which should happpen then hopefully by May 2016 Canelo/Cotto winner (I think Canelo will win take this and he is basically the same size as GGG), he will have to fight GGG, you can dream right?

If Cotto vacates the title then GGG can hopefully get that belt and unify the division before moving up in weight.

If its pretty clear that GGG will not get the winner of Cotto/Canelo and they will also not vacate the title (who knows with all that corruption?) then GGG might be looking forward to fight Ward next year and will probably take on a Top 15 Supermiddleweight by the end of the year, while Ward has his second tuneup, that fight will hopefully build up and generate some buzz.

What worries me, that seems like theres alot of immature hatred towards GGG on these forum by some desperate kids and it appears that these people are just keyboard warriors and just fake Ward fans, otherwise he would sell more tickets and have more than 300k viewers, or what am i missing here?

Why dont all you supposed Ward fans support your hero? Are you all liars and just biased haters?

[Robbie Barrett]

People here acting so immature, if you actually watched the interview, Ward himself said HBO wants to build up the fight, he is not 100% back to his best and both would want a fight in between so the fight could happen next year.

Now it just depends what will happen till then, GGG wants to unify the MW division foremost. Canelo is fighting Cotto and if that agreement is in place that the winner HAS TO fight GGG which should happpen then hopefully by May 2016 Canelo/Cotto winner (I think Canelo will win take this and he is basically the same size as GGG), he will have to fight GGG, you can dream right?

If Cotto vacates the title then GGG can hopefully get that belt and unify the division before moving up in weight.

If its pretty clear that GGG will not get the winner of Cotto/Canelo and they will also not vacate the title (who knows with all that corruption?) then GGG might be looking forward to fight Ward next year and will probably take on a Top 15 Supermiddleweight by the end of the year, while Ward has his second tuneup, that fight will hopefully build up and generate some buzz.

What worries me, that seems like theres alot of immature hatred towards GGG on these forum by some desperate kids and it appears that these people are just keyboard warriors and just fake Ward fans, otherwise he would sell more tickets and have more than 300k viewers, or what am i missing here?

Why dont all you supposed Ward fans support your hero? Are you all liars and just biased haters?

Selective hearing..........

[Eastcoast]

The site fee isn't going to include taxes and union fees on REVENUE.

HBO, TV and Sponsors don't come into the discussion about the Venue selection bombing.

So you're back-tracking from the promotion bombing to the 'venue selection' bombing. Again, how did the venue selection bomb? Gate exceeded site expense by well over $100k and that's going with the assumption of full-scale expense for partial use of the building. Site expense generally covers operations. Do you have the line-item breakout where it shows that operations aren't included in the site-fee?