Andre ward says he's ready and available to fight gennnady golovkin:

[IMDAZED]

Define 'bombed', because they made a profit. It costs $400k to rent out the full MSG, they rented a scaled-down setup. They held expectations of 7,500 due to the quality of the opponent. Nobody had expectations of it being a super fight like Cotto/Martinez with 21,000 sold & $5mill gate. Cotto/Geale on eve of the Puerto Rican day parade had 12,157 and Cotto/Trout did 13,096. Looking back further Cotto/Jennings had 9,903 sold with a gate of $969,424.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/sp...re-garden.html




Why would K2 hold MSG for Cotto/Alvarez?

Just curious...the Garden lets you rent out the entire main arena and charges proportionate to the space used? Really?

[MrP4P]

It doesn't even have to be about A-side/B-side arguments. Golovkin is the one who has to move up and Ward is the one who needs Golovkin.

W/O Ward - Golovkin can fight N'Dam in October, sell 10,000 tix, get 1.5mill tv views, make over a million from HBO another million from international sales.

W/O Golovkin - Ward goes back to BET, fights in front of a paper'd house, gets maybe 500,000 tv viewers, and loses his promoter another $2mill.

Nope

Ward has a Kovalev fight waiting for him if he wants to move up.

Who can GGG fight? did you really say N'Dam? N'Dam doesnt want to fight GGG. Are you serious? Thats not a viable or credible option for him.

Ward w/o GGG: Light Heavyweight championship fight against Kovalev, maybe 3 pillion purse, good ratings (Kovalev does great numbers) and a legacy fight with an achievement

GGG w/o Ward: N'Dam.. Johnson..Chavez?

You wernt serious saying Ward needs GGG. Weak post.

What big fight is out there for GGG besides Ward?

Edit: Oh how could I forget. The future big fight against Hopkins would count as an option I guess.. LOL.

[The Hammer]

If Ward wants to fight GGG so bad, then he should fight him at 160.

After all, he was willing to fight Mayweather at 160.

[IMDAZED]

If Ward wants to fight GGG so bad, then he should fight him at 160.

After all, he was willing to fight Mayweather at 160.

If GGG wants to fight Ward so bad, he should move up to 168. After all, he was willing to move up to 168 for Froch. And Chavez Jr.

[MrP4P]

If GGG wants to fight Ward so bad, he should move up to 168. After all, he was willing to move up to 168 for Froch. And Chavez Jr.

If he wants the Middleweight championship so bad he should move down to 155 to fight Cotto. After all, he was willing to move down to 154 for Mayweather.

[Eastcoast]

Nope

Ward has a Kovalev fight waiting for him if he wants to move up.

Who can GGG fight? did you really say N'Dam? N'Dam doesnt want to fight GGG. Are you serious? Thats not a viable or credible option for him.

Ward w/o GGG: Light Heavyweight championship fight against Kovalev, maybe 3 pillion purse, good ratings (Kovalev does great numbers) and a legacy fight with an achievement

GGG w/o Ward: N'Dam.. Johnson..Chavez?

You wernt serious saying Ward needs GGG. Weak post.

What big fight is out there for GGG besides Ward?

Big talk, come back better next time. Ward's not fighting Kovalev next, more like Periban at 170/168. Ward was quoted recently saying that if he were to go up to LHW he'd do it properly and have a couple fights there first before Kovalev.

[Scipio2009]

LA makes sense, but I agree. Don't see it happening because they'll both want millions which are just not there. Ward got $2m for Rodriguez, does anyone see him taking less? If Ward gets $2m, Golovkin gets $2m and HBO won't do it.

$3m rights fee from HBO, $1m from the Ward-Golovkin gate (Ward is already drawing $700k in Oakland, Golovkin's supposed to be this big draw with no name opponents, and Ward-Golovkin at Staples Center would have Golovkin bringing a name fighter with him to his burgeoning fanbase), $1m-$2m in event sponsors, and another $2m for the international broadcasting rights (Canada, Mexico, UK, Germany will all broadcast the fight in quality spots). To that, you might even be able to add another $500k-$1m for the miscellanious revenue streams (merch, etc).

You count all the revenue streams (minus all of the payouts to other parties), and you're looking at easily $7m in the pot for everyone to split, maybe more if the fight captures the public's imagination.

$2m to Ward, $2m to Golovkin, each promoter gets $1m on the fight, and then the two fighters split whatever else ends up being on the upside.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It doesn't even have to be about A-side/B-side arguments. Golovkin is the one who has to move up and Ward is the one who needs Golovkin.

W/O Ward - Golovkin can fight N'Dam in October, sell 10,000 tix, get 1.5mill tv views, make over a million from HBO another million from international sales.

W/O Golovkin - Ward goes back to BET, fights in front of a paper'd house, gets maybe 500,000 tv viewers, and loses his promoter another $2mill.

Why does Ward "need" Golovkin?

He earns more money than him and has a much better resume

[MrP4P]

Big talk, come back better next time. Ward's not fighting Kovalev next, more like Periban at 170/168. Ward was quoted recently saying that if he were to go up to LHW he'd do it properly and have a couple fights there first before Kovalev.

Are you that daft? Who said it would be next? The point is regardless of who Ward fights next, at 168, 170 or 175, a big fight against Kovalev is an option for him if he decides to move up.

Again, what big fight is out there for GGG besides Ward?

Not Canelo
Not Cotto
Not Lee
Not Lemieux

Who?

Im talking about a BIG fight(financially, legacy wise) Dont bring up freaking N'Dam. Your reasoning using TV ratings and promoters losing money was bogus and irrelevant.

[Raonic]

In the past Ward's been clearly quoted saying he would go up to 175, not to campaign there but for a single big fight.

Going up to light heavyweight for the right fight -- not to campaign up there, but for the right fight -- is an option.
-Andre Ward, December 21, 2011
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ely-time-being

Yea but to go up to 175 then come back down in weight is pretty hard. Ward is going to have to move up soon anyway.