Andre ward says he's ready and available to fight gennnady golovkin:

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  • Eastcoast
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    #221
    Originally posted by MrP4P
    Are you that daft? Who said it would be next? The point is regardless of who Ward fights next, at 168, 170 or 175, a big fight against Kovalev is an option for him if he decides to move up.

    Again, what big fight is out there for GGG besides Ward?

    Not Canelo
    Not Cotto
    Not Lee
    Not Lemieux

    Who?

    Im talking about a BIG fight(financially, legacy wise) Dont bring up freaking N'Dam. Your reasoning using TV ratings and promoters losing money was bogus and irrelevant.
    Get your story straight, we're talking next or not? Lee & Lemieux will happen for Golovkin much sooner than Ward/Kovalev. N'Dam/Golovkin isn't a big fight, but it's a profitable one. Ward doesn't even have an option like that right now. You don't like the numbers because they don't work for you, sorry.

    It's sounding like it will be Golovkin/Lemieux in October at Madison Square Garden, then Golovkin/Lee in Dublin in January/February. Meanwhile you can can enjoy Ward/Periban and Ward/Medina, they'll probably be giving out more free tickets like they did for Ward/Smith!

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    • Eastcoast
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      #222
      Originally posted by Raonic
      Yea but to go up to 175 then come back down in weight is pretty hard. Ward is going to have to move up soon anyway.
      Ward & Hunter have recently changed their tune on that. Now Andre's saying he'd go up to LHW and stay there. I'm looking for the interview where he said he wanted a couple of fights at LHW before Kovalev.

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      • Raonic
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        #223
        Originally posted by Eastcoast
        Ward & Hunter have recently changed their tune on that. Now Andre's saying he'd go up to LHW and stay there. I'm looking for the interview where he said he wanted a couple of fights at LHW before Kovalev.
        His last 2 fights were against LHW fighters considering both his last 2 opponents weighed in above the 168 limit.

        Though if he says he's ready for GGG, he should be ready for Kovalev too in Oct/Nov, who is also looking for an opponent around that time. He'd probably want more money than Kovalev for that fight too though.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #224
          Originally posted by Eastcoast
          Define 'bombed', because they made a profit. It costs $400k to rent out the full MSG, they rented a scaled-down setup. They held expectations of 7,500 due to the quality of the opponent. Nobody had expectations of it being a super fight like Cotto/Martinez with 21,000 sold & $5mill gate. Cotto/Geale on eve of the Puerto Rican day parade had 12,157 and Cotto/Trout did 13,096. Looking back further Cotto/Jennings had 9,903 sold with a gate of $969,424.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/sp...re-garden.html




          Why would K2 hold MSG for Cotto/Alvarez?



          $400,000 rent, union fees, taxes, advertising etc........ They didn't make a profit.

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          • Eastcoast
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            #225
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke



            $400,000 rent, union fees, taxes, advertising etc........ They didn't make a profit.
            Did you do the bookkeeping for them?

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              #226
              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Team Ward wants to use the Bernard Hopkins blueprint and make all the smaller guys with big names like Golovkin come up to 168.

              Like Hopkins made Calzaghe come up to 175 and Pavlik come up to 170.
              All the smaller guys? Like who? Chad Dawson called Ward out. Not vice versa. If you're going to call someone out then go to their division.

              GGG is SHOOK

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                #227
                Originally posted by Raonic
                I suppose you wanted Pacquiao to accept $40 mil because he never made that money elsewhere either, right?

                Hell, Ward at 35% makes more in this fight than any fight he's made before. Why doesn't he take that? 50/50 isn't more than fair for the simple reason that Golovkin is worth more than 50% when it comes to Andre Ward.
                Top Rank's share of Mayweather-Pacquiao was said to be $150m, $50m of which got paid out to Top Rank. Koncz gets his $22.5m (15%), Roach takes his $10m-$15m share. Add in the camp expenses and paying back the purse advances, and Pacquiao maybe walked away with $50m-$60m plus his sponsorships.

                Factor in ~$52m (35%) to cover taxes and Pacquiao basically made nothing on the fight.

                At least Pacquiao would've made some money off of the $40m flat purse ($12m to Arum, $6m to Koncz, $4m-$5m to Pacquiao, and $14m in taxes, still leave Pacquiao with $3m heading into his pocket plus his sponsorships).

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  Did you do the bookkeeping for them?
                  Did you? You brought up the numbers first.

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                  • MrP4P
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    Get your story straight, we're talking next or not? Lee & Lemieux will happen for Golovkin much sooner than Ward/Kovalev. N'Dam/Golovkin isn't a big fight, but it's a profitable one. Ward doesn't even have an option like that right now. You don't like the numbers because they don't work for you, sorry.

                    It's sounding like it will be Golovkin/Lemieux in October at Madison Square Garden, then Golovkin/Lee in Dublin in January/February. Meanwhile you can can enjoy Ward/Periban and Ward/Medina, they'll probably be giving out more free tickets like they did for Ward/Smith!
                    Get what straight. I said nothing about being "next" you did.

                    Golden Boy is saving Lemieux for Canelo after he fights Cotto. How will GGG-Lemieux be appealing after he lost his fight, and belt against Canelo? Weak post is weak.

                    None of the hypothetical matchups you bring up are going to happen.

                    You are using "Ward isnt fighting Kovalev NOW!" to avoid my question

                    What big fight (be realistic) is out there for GGG besides Ward?

                    And you keep missing the point. The FACT that Ward has the Kovalev fight as an option shows he doesnt need GGG more than GGG needs him. Even if those matchups you mention happen, when Ward fights Kovalev it will be a bigger feat than anything GGG has done in his career.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                      Did you? You brought up the numbers first.

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