Could Golovkin end up being the next Jeff Lacy?

[Barcham]

GG is a fighter who will never dare to be great. He'll be content to finish out his career over the next few years against tomato cans he is a 200/1 favourite to beat. The Ward fight could have been made, GG priced himself out.

GGG has no control over a Ward fight. HBO have said that they want nothing to do with it unless it is a PPV fight. It is not a PPV fight at this time and it may well never be a PPV fight if Ward continues to fight bums like Smith on BET. In fact, we may never see Ward on HBO ever again. Not to mention that during face to face discussions with HBO, GGG said yes and Ward said NO.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I guess Carl Froch was easy pickings & easy money. Same with Sergio Martinez when he was on top. Dmitry Pirog as well.

We already went over Ward - dude said Golovkin needed to beat some top guys before he'd fight him, he wasn't interested. Then a year later he had a tune up and said he'd love to fight Golovkin and proceeded to exile himself from boxing for 2 years, even stating at one point he didn't know if he'd ever come back. But keep acting like that fight was possible.

Of course they see a 38 year old Carl Froch who's been out of the ring a year as easy money. Lucian Bute thought the same thing after Froch lost to Ward. And even if they lose, they still get paid a ****load.

Your missing the key part of the story is that after Ward said he'd love to fight Golovkin, Team GGG backed the *** down and started talking about financials. Lets tell the whole truth here.

[kafkod]

Of course they see a 38 year old Carl Froch who's been out of the ring a year as easy money. Lucian Bute thought the same thing after Froch lost to Ward. And even if they lose, they still get paid a ****load.

Your missing the key part of the story is that after Ward said he'd love to fight Golovkin, Team GGG backed the *** down and started talking about financials. Lets tell the whole truth here.

They didn't back down, they just relayed what HBO had told them - that GGG/Ward wasn't financially viable.

There was also the complication of Ward needing a couple of tune ups first, which he still hasn't had 18 momths later.

[ИATAS]

Of course they see a 38 year old Carl Froch who's been out of the ring a year as easy money.

Like you said yourself, Golovkin has been trying to fight Froch for several years now.

Lucian Bute thought the same thing after Froch lost to Ward. And even if they lose, they still get paid a ****load.

Funny enough Bute vs Froch only happened because Ward passed on Bute for not having "earned a shot" (same thing he said about Golovkin) and Ward missed out on a huge fight. Bute resurrected Froch's career, really, thanks to Ward.

Your missing the key part of the story is that after Ward said he'd love to fight Golovkin, Team GGG backed the *** down and started talking about financials. Lets tell the whole truth here.

Yeah because I'm sure you're all about telling the truth, bashing GGG every chance you get on NSB. The point was there has never been a time when Ward & GGG could have fought. When GGG was interested in Ward, Andre wasn't interested in him. After Ward had his tune up and TALKED about fighting Golovkin he proceed to do nothing and exiled himself.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

They didn't back down, they just relayed what HBO had told them - that GGG/Ward wasn't financially viable.

There was also the complication of Ward needing a couple of tune ups first, which he still hasn't had 18 momths later.

It wasn't financially viable because Golovkin's team refused to take the short end of the money.

[ИATAS]

It wasn't financially viable because Golovkin's team refused to take the short end of the money.

Another lie.

K2 only said they wanted a good chunk of money, not the majority of it. Ward's demands are pretty crazy, he gets $2m+ for tune ups.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Like you said yourself, Golovkin has been trying to fight Froch for several years now.




Funny enough Bute vs Froch only happened because Ward passed on Bute for not having "earned a shot" (same thing he said about Golovkin) and Ward missed out on a huge fight. Bute resurrected Froch's career, really, thanks to Ward.



Yeah because I'm sure you're all about telling the truth, bashing GGG every chance you get on NSB. The point was there has never been a time when Ward & GGG could have fought. When GGG was interested in Ward, Andre wasn't interested in him. After Ward had his tune up and TALKED about fighting Golovkin he proceed to do nothing and exiled himself.

I maybe exaggerated if I said several years but they've been chasing Froch for the money for a while now.

We were in a thread where a guy made out like Froch had called out GGG, then got his bluff called and is now silent.

GGG fans like to bend the truth.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Another lie.

K2 only said they wanted a good chunk of money, not the majority of it. Ward's demands are pretty crazy, he gets $2m+ for tune ups.

What entitled them to a "huge chunk of the money"? Kovalev conceded to Hopkins and his last paycheque was double any GGG's highest ever.

[New England]

i didn't have showtime when lacy was coming up. i don't think i saw a lacy fight on TV prior to calzaghe. i think i downloaded osme of his fights, IIRC, like syd vanderpool, scottie pemberton, omar shieka, etc.

still, lacy was touted for his left hook. that's one punch. it wasn't particularly educated, either, just hard. they were pushing him at a time when boxing was at an all time low. this was pre mayweather - de la hoya, which put boxing back on the map after the retirement of tyson, after trinidad - de la hoya, etc.

golovkin hgas a great left hook, right hand, uppercut, jab, chin, fundamentals. he's a complete package minus the blinding speed that we usually see from elite level boxers.

he's not going to get beat up like that by any middleweight. i'd bet my house on that.

he may get beat up at SMW against ward, but that's really not getting "exposed" as much as it is running into a genuinely great boxer with a great chin who is bigger than you are.

[PulpFriction]

GG is a fighter who will never dare to be great. He'll be content to finish out his career over the next few years against tomato cans he is a 200/1 favourite to beat. The Ward fight could have been made, GG priced himself out.

And when could it have been made smart guy? While Ward was in court or while he was getting surgery on his shoulder?