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  • MrRolltide91
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    #111
    ward has degale, groves, stieglitz, badou, and froch(rematch) at 168
    Last edited by MrRolltide91; 06-22-2015, 04:43 AM.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #112
      Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
      People always bring up the "anyone from 154-168" against GGG, but didn't Ward say "I'm going to beat the Klitschko's to become Heavyweight champion of the World by the age of 32". Well somebody tell Andre he's running out of time, only 8 more months until his 32nd birthday. LOL, I'm just messing but Ward did say that though.
      People seem to get butthurt over the hype GGG gets and it's understandable. I don't like some of the things other GGG fans say, because they're making us all look bad. But it's not GGG's fault some of these fights can't get made. It's also not his fault some of his fans say idiotic things, but again doesn't every fighter have fans like that?
      calling bull**** on the statement in bold; if you have a source where Ward or someone speaking on Ward's behalf said such a thing, post it for everyone to see.

      Ward has made mention of one day challenging for the heavyweight championship of the world, in the right fight (a la Roy Jones Jr challenging John Ruiz), but that's about it.

      Golovkin has been up **** creek because of his team running at the mouth; don't try and deflect the heat now.

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        #113
        Originally posted by daggum
        yes they are and ward knows that so he's going to take easy fights on their dime. this is the same ward who was trying to make hbo give him easy fight after easy fight and this led to his promoter troubles because the guys ward wanted to fight weren't approved by hbo and he wouldn't take less money or fight tougher opponents so he sat in purgatory. now he's just doing the same thing with a different promoter only this promoter has a lot more money so they can afford to pay ward and it doesn't have to be on hbo. they got duped. ward is the pat robertson of boxing. give me money because...god says so!
        HBO just paid $2m for the Golovkin-Monroe fight card, and HBO is likely ponying up even more money for the next **** Golovkin fight, so what are you talking about?

        Team Golovkin picked a guy right off of Friday Night Fights, threw him in with Golovkin, and you're on hear, trying to sell that as any semblance of a tough fight? lol

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          #114
          Originally posted by JaguaresMx
          meh. Not exciting at all to see him just wait for smaller men to come up.

          I don't see anything at 168 other than maybe De Gale, but the truth is Ward brings no money so I don't see guys itching to fight him.

          His real chance at stardom is 175. He'll stay on BET fighting overmatched opponents.
          Pretty much so...
          ... and DeGale won't fight Ward as long as WBC doesn't force him... DeGale-Ward would be in the UK, though...

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            #115
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            Sounds like Ward's fans now is going to STFU about GGG having to move up or being exposed with a double standard.
            Andre Ward was 173 with over two weeks to the fight; Ward has consistently stated that he would go up to 175 when his body tells him to make the move, and his body doesn't want to move yet. No one in Ward's camp is running around, harping about how Ward whoops every fighter 160-175, so he's got the space to do that.

            Abel Sanchez's mouth and Team Golovkin's negotiations have taken that space from Golovkin. If your camp says that you'd trounce every fighter 154-168 (can't recall the source at the moment, but I believe that Sanchez has stated that Ward wouldn't even make the full distance against Golovkin), stand by those statements when they get called by a fiighter 154-168.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Steve plunger
              After watching ward fight and seeing the weigh in....I seriously doubt whether he can make 168 again......was not an ounce of fat on ward at the weigh in.....and he was still 4lb over 168......very difficult to lose 4lb when you have almost zero fat at 172.....seems like to me he don't want to enter the Devils playground at 175 where the demons are waiting for him
              Ward looked hydrated at the weigh-in and, though haven't seen anything for the day-of weight, it didn't look like he added hardly any weight for fight night.

              After being 173 over two weeks till the fight, dropping five pounds with that much time doesn't seem all that difficult; fighters have boiled off more weight days to the fight than that.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Andre Ward was 173 with over two weeks to the fight; Ward has consistently stated that he would go up to 175 when his body tells him to make the move, and his body doesn't want to move yet. No one in Ward's camp is running around, harping about how Ward whoops every fighter 160-175, so he's got the space to do that.

                Abel Sanchez's mouth and Team Golovkin's negotiations have taken that space from Golovkin. If your camp says that you'd trounce every fighter 154-168 (can't recall the source at the moment, but I believe that Sanchez has stated that Ward wouldn't even make the full distance against Golovkin), stand by those statements when they get called by a fiighter 154-168.
                Dude. Ward, not his team, has said he was ready to move up for a big fight:

                "I am ready to fight the best 168- and 175-pounders that are out there," Ward told ESPN.com in a recent interview. "At this point, a big fight at 175 is interesting to me. I don't want to go up just to go up. But for the right fight, for a big fight, I would go up. I'm willing to fight anyone at '68 or '75."
                So I'm sorry to inform you, that your argument does not fit your agenda.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Andre Ward was 173 with over two weeks to the fight; Ward has consistently stated that he would go up to 175 when his body tells him to make the move, and his body doesn't want to move yet. No one in Ward's camp is running around, harping about how Ward whoops every fighter 160-175, so he's got the space to do that.

                  Abel Sanchez's mouth and Team Golovkin's negotiations have taken that space from Golovkin. If your camp says that you'd trounce every fighter 154-168 (can't recall the source at the moment, but I believe that Sanchez has stated that Ward wouldn't even make the full distance against Golovkin), stand by those statements when they get called by a fiighter 154-168.
                  If Ward was 'different' as compared to GGG, at least he would have taken this Smith fight at 168 -- because Ward could easily make the weight... But the facts show that Ward was scared by his own long layoff... Whatever...

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Name those 4-5 fights with no active barriers.
                    vs Fedor Chudinov (wba champion), Patrick Nielsen (WBA International champion, ranked #6 by WBA), Froch II in London[possible retirement is a barrier], Gilberto Ramirez (WBA #3; no obvious issues between Top Rank and Roc Nation), "Porky" Medina (WBA #11), and Felix Sturm (WBA #4; seemingly showing his age, though unsure if the fan interest in Germany still remains). Could add the Abraham/Steiglitz winner to the mix as well.

                    With Roc Nation putting up nearly a quarter of a million dollars to bring Paul Smith over, that type of money isn't something that those guys (sans Froch or Sturm) could realistically be expected to walk away from.

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                      #120
                      Ward still has some big fights at 168. DeGale, Groves, GGG possibly moving up. Callum Smith looks a good prospect too.

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