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  • NEETzsche
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    #161
    Originally posted by hitking
    The division is ****. Cotto isn't even a middleweight. The next best beltholder just went life-n-death with Andy Lee. You got two bums fighting for a vacant belt this weekend on regional Fox TV. The division is complete and utter crap. And for a guy that is supposedly an elite fighter to hang around to fight that level of foe is pathetic. Especially when you have guys like Ward, Froch, and DeGeale a division north.
    andy lee is the titlist, not quillin. they're both good fighters. n'dam and lemieux are not 'bums' either. please tune in this weekend and educate yourself. then you have jacobs, wade, charlo, saunders, eubank jr and ryder on the verge of contending for titles. and guys like geale, murray and korobov who are decent contenders on their day. and cotto and alvarez are both top 15 pound-for-pound fighters who fight within the middleweight limits, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

    super middleweight has ward, who is obviously a brilliant boxer, then degale and groves (no better than quillin and lee), then abraham and stieglitz who seem to have been condemned to some sort of purgatory in which they have to battle each other for eternity, then chudinov and ramirez who are decent, nothing special, then the two choke-artist dirrell brothers, and then a couple of decent british fighters like c. smith and fielding. is it really such an improvement?

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    • Barcham
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      #162
      Originally posted by hitking
      He's telling the truth. Cotto just got ripped for fighting the best fighter on GGG's resume after a year's layoff.
      No, Cotto got ripped for having to use a catchweight to drain Geale down to 157 because he is too much of a chicken to fight a middleweight at the middleweight limit. He needs an artificial advantage. But somehow, Cotto-tards tend to ignore that fact.

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      • hitking
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        #163
        Originally posted by bug0092
        At 157 not 160. You think Geale was the same fighter GGG fought?
        Maybe, maybe not. But he certainly didn't go from worldbeater to bum. More like ******, to ****** ass.

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        • hitking
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          #164
          Originally posted by NEETzsche
          andy lee is the titlist, not quillin. they're both good fighters. n'dam and lemieux are not 'bums' either. please tune in this weekend and educate yourself. then you have jacobs, wade, charlo, saunders, eubank jr and ryder on the verge of contending for titles. and guys like geale, murray and korobov who are decent contenders on their day. and cotto and alvarez are both top 15 pound-for-pound fighters who fight within the middleweight limits, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

          super middleweight has ward, who is obviously a brilliant boxer, then degale and groves (no better than quillin and lee), then abraham and stieglitz who seem to have been condemned to some sort of purgatory in which they have to battle each other for eternity, then chudinov and ramirez who are decent, nothing special, then the two choke-artist dirrell brothers, and then a couple of decent british fighters like c. smith and fielding. is it really such an improvement?
          You talking about N'dam who got dropped like 15x by Quillen. And Lemiux that got KTFO by Rubio and beaten by Acline's old bum ass????? GTFOH

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          • Redd Foxx
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            #165
            Originally posted by Barcham
            No, Cotto got ripped for having to use a catchweight to drain Geale down to 157 because he is too much of a chicken to fight a middleweight at the middleweight limit. He needs an artificial advantage. But somehow, Cotto-tards tend to ignore that fact.
            You guys that grasp onto this "3lbs killed him" nonsense are beyond reasoning with. He's a pro fighter with months to prepare. Quit lying to yourselves. When Golovkin finally faces real competition and looses you're all going to jump ship anyway so don't wear yourselves out trying to defend him now.

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            • LaidOut
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              #166
              Ward's body language is that of someone BSing their way out of an already awkward situation. Not once did I hear him say he'd actually fight GGG now. Put up or shut up. Tired of diva ass guys who think they're boxers. Boxers box, Ward. Whatchu doin with this weak ass 'once a year' ****?

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              • bigjavi973
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                #167
                Originally posted by vortex662290
                move down in weight like Dawson moved down in your fight.
                Didn't Dawson after his fight say, "Ill go down there and whoop him" something along those lines?

                How is someone gonna offer to go down in weight and then ya complain about the catchweight smh

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                • hitking
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by LaidOut
                  Ward's body language is that of someone BSing their way out of an already awkward situation. Not once did I hear him say he'd actually fight GGG now. Put up or shut up. Tired of diva ass guys who think they're boxers. Boxers box, Ward. Whatchu doin with this weak ass 'once a year' ****?
                  Another body language expert. Bet you were saying Floyd was scared of Canelo vause he wore shades during staredowns too.

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                  • bug0092
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by hitking
                    Boxing has always worked on an eye test. And no one in the middleweight division even comes close to resembling an elite fighter to me, any experts, or anyone else that doesn't have GGG's d1ck stuffed down their throat.

                    As for GGG's willingness to fight Ward......whatever.

                    A lot of these MWs have one or two losses on their records just like a lot of the guys Ward's beaten. What exactly should I be looking for when evaluating fighters in a division? I see a lot of "experts" picked Manny to beat Floyd and Hopkins to school Kovalev. Do they need their eyes checked? Who did you have in those fights? If your eyes are so good, you must be very wealthy man.

                    As for Ward, guess after 2 years he couldn't get Glolovkin in the ring so he's fighting up and comer Paul Smith this weekend in a get busy fight. Should be a good one.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      Odd. Cotto fights in NY he's puerto rican. Canelo fights in texas & cali hes mexican. GGG fights in cali hes not even american (sorta mexican i guess lol) Bhop fights at "home" in atlantic city???

                      I get where you are coming from, but even here in the states a west coast guy fighting in the east coast would be considered "away from home"
                      Originally posted by Barcham
                      Boxing is an international sport. Home 'advantage' is determined by the flag flying above the arena or stadium.

                      In pro hockey, another international sport, you can have two Canadian teams playing - one from Montreal playing another in Vancouver and the Vancouver team is the home team. But if it is an international tournament, as the Super Six was, if the Montreal Canadiens are playing in Vancouver against Russia, it is considered a Canadian home game.

                      Note: I understand why Americans have difficulty understanding the concept. After all, they think the team who wins the 'World Series' in baseball is actually the World Champion. Same thing with their other major sports like football and basketball. Americans think the world revolves around them.
                      Froch was the home fighter against Kessler in London. But when he fought Groves in London, they both said the fight was on Grove's home turf, because Groves is a Londoner and Froch isn't.

                      See? You don't need to fight in your home town to have "home advantage", if your opponent is from a different country.

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