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  • bigjavi973
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    #41
    Originally posted by icha
    im sure those who watched the reply didt know about canelo-kirkland...
    check other fights, most of the times on hbo the undercard does about 800k or 900k and the big fight does 1.2 or 1.3, this time wasnt even close...
    That's exactly my point. They don't know about them. All they know is floyd & pac where the best two fighters on the planet and they were disappointed. With that, HBO telling those casuals if you thought or were disappointed with the "fight of the century", stay tuned in and wait till you see our next fight with canelo-kirkland.

    agree with the rest of your post.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #42
      They do pretty much need each other, so that does cut down the leverage on either side. Their other options are pretty marginal, and one of the best ways to look at leverage is what is your next best option.

      Hopefully no one acts too uppity~

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        #43
        Originally posted by -Johannes-
        They have peak numbers for a reason, most people weren't around for the undercard fights. Hell most people don't care for undercards.

        If you want to throw the Floyd/Pac excuse then how about we see how they both did with Floyd. Since you're implying the reason he pulled those numbers is because Floyd was involved.

        Whether you like it or not, Canelo is the bigger draw. This has nothing to with skills or who's the better fighter so there's no need to defend this. Canelo has been the bigger draw for a while. I don't see how anyone can say Cotto is the A side when Canelo's fights habitually get better numbers than Cotto's.
        Casuals who wanted to watch the floyd-pac replay since they didn't pay at first, some who wanted to watch it again and HBO hyping it saying "if you thought that was the fight of the century, tune in for our next fight."

        funny how they conveniently had it the same day of the replay.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
          Canelo's tickets were $10 lol, Cotto's were not....

          Canelo's number was riding Floyd's numbers once again like his only good PPV buy.

          Cotto has done far better on his own /end thread.
          That's pure BS they had a few nose bleed seats for 10 bucks the majority of tickets were vastly more expensive. And if Canelo was riding floyd's numbers then why did he double the HBO rebroadcast of the fight and why did Showtime get little to no viewers to watch their rebroadcast which included an exclusive mayweather interview? The spike in ratings happened for Canelo's fight and his fight is the reason the Showtime broadcast which went head to head bombed.

          And still haven't explained why Canelo vs May PPV's and gate revenue destroyed Cotto vs May PPV? You fools coming up with way too many excuses when it's not complicated. Canelo is a bigger star and box office draw. That's why he sells more seats, fills bigger arenas, gets higher ratings. Consistently out performing Cotto in every measurable.

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          • icha
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            #45
            Originally posted by bigjavi973
            That's exactly my point. They don't know about them. All they know is floyd & pac where the best two fighters on the planet and they were disappointed. With that, HBO telling those casuals if you thought or were disappointed with the "fight of the century", stay tuned in and wait till you see our next fight with canelo-kirkland.

            agree with the rest of your post.
            i was being sarcastic with that statement, of course people already knew...
            showing such a boring fight doesnt excite casuals at all, again the difference in ratings was just too much between the fights, when most of the times the undercard wont do less than 200k or 300k than the main event if is somehow interesting..

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            • SunSpace
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              #46
              Cotto is the A-side. Canelo needs Cotto, not the other way around. That's why he has had to agree to Cotto's terms. It's that simple.
              Last edited by SunSpace; 06-09-2015, 10:53 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Eastcoast
                Canelo's 2.1mill rating ****s on Cotto's 1.6mill. Canelo's 20k+ gates do aswell to Cotto's 12k gates. A-side decided.

                Only caveat Cotto has, is that Canelo needs him. But Cotto is B-side no question.
                Not hard to sell a ton of tickets when you sell them for $10-$15 like the Canelo fight.

                Cotto has sold out MSG without selling county fair priced tickets.

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                  #48
                  Most Canelo fans don't really care about this A side crap but it's so fun throwing it in the face of Cotto who has done nothing but act like a dyck and diva throwing A side in GGG's face and making that the reason why he backed out the Canelo fight earlier this year. Now the numbers prove he is NOT the A side. Canelo has no A side unless he is fighting Mayweather and MAYBE Pacquiao. His star power is bigger right now then every other fighter including Cotto.

                  I used to be a big fan of Cotto but the disgraceful Diva way he's acted and keeping the Middleweight title hostage while he keeps bragging about A side has turned me off with this dude. With these numbers one thing is clear the A side talk ends now. Canelo is the A side and Cotto fans know it.

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                  • icha
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by North Star
                    Not hard to sell a ton of tickets when you sell them for $10-$15 like the Canelo fight.

                    Cotto has sold out MSG without selling county fair priced tickets.
                    and canelo hasnt sold out mgm or other arenas??

                    at 21 sold out mgm same date that chavezjr was fighting maravilla a few blocks down, and his opponent was fuccing josesito lopez...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by North Star
                      Not hard to sell a ton of tickets when you sell them for $10-$15 like the Canelo fight.

                      Cotto has sold out MSG without selling county fair priced tickets.
                      What were the gate ticket sales for both guys in vegas vs Mayweather? He couldn't even sell out Barclays this weekend lol Canelo is at the level now where he could fight ANYWHERE and it will draw huge numbers.

                      Canelo drew 40,000 for his fight with Trout only months AFTER Cotto got embarrassed in MSG to Trout in front of just 13,000 (which drew less then anticipated and did not come close to selling out). MSG holds 18-20,000 seats.

                      And I used to be a fan of Cotto I saw him fight live at MSG vs Jennings and MSG was about half empty.
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 06-09-2015, 11:02 AM.

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