Cotto-Geale 3rd highest rated HBO

[Da Boxer]

Great ratings for HBO who has been killing it all year. Canelo vs Cotto will do amazing numbers. But one this is clear under every measurable possible Canelo has surpassed Cotto in Star power. This idea that Cotto is the A side to Canelo isn't backed up when you look at attendance, tv ratings, PPV buys ect. And how does Canelo need Cotto more then the other way around? Canelo is young and has nothing but time on his side. Cotto's clock is ticking and other then Mayweather (which I don't see happening because Haymon hates Jay-Z) he has no other big fight to explain to his fanbase why he is ducking GGG. If he doesn't fight GGG and backs out of the Canelo fight to fight another bum he will get killed by media and fans.

Canelo can fight anybody in Sept and do a massive 2 mil TV ratings on regular HBO. He has no mandatory challenger that he is ducking. He fought no fanbase having Lara and did good PPV numbers and this was on Showtime. Look at his ratings spike since coming back to HBO. With HBO pushing his next PPV that number will be much higher then his last Showtime PPV.

No chit. There are OVER 11.6 million immigrants from Mexico in the United States, according to the 2013 ACS. That accounts for o/a 2.5 million households...of which 2.1M owns a TV with some sort of cable service. There is your 2.1m viewers cause ricans dont watch Giftanelo fight lol! That's without mentioning the other 5 million or so illegal aliens from Mexico!

[bigjavi973]

if anything that fight disappointed a lot of casuals and even hardcore fans...
it was called the fraud of the century for a reason...

that replay was so important that canelo did twice those numbers...
lets not even talk about the same fight on showtime...

Yes disappointed but I'm sure there were millions (as it showed) that still wanted to see the fight. While watching the fight... HBO kept hyping up Canelo-Kirkland as "being better than the fight of the century". Marketing 101 So those casuals who watched the fight (some again for the 2nd time) stayed tuned in while the canelo fans tuned in once his fight came on.

Again, marketing 101

[Beater_of_ass]

Not against Canelo. Canelo got higher PPV buys/ratings vs common fighters such Mayweather and Trout. And his last HBO fight on Kirkland got much higher ratings then Cotto did this weekend. His fight also attracted a much higher gate. Cotto didn't even sell out the Barclays. Canelo did like 30,000 in attendance and filled out a ball park. Canelo has proven he has a bigger fanbase then Cotto.

Canelo's tickets were $10 lol, Cotto's were not....

Canelo's number was riding Floyd's numbers once again like his only good PPV buy.

Cotto has done far better on his own /end thread.

[icha]

Yes disappointed but I'm sure there were millions (as it showed) that still wanted to see the fight. While watching the fight... HBO kept hyping up Canelo-Kirkland as "being better than the fight of the century". Marketing 101 So those casuals who watched the fight (some again for the 2nd time) stayed tuned in while the canelo fans tuned in once his fight came on.

Again, marketing 101

im sure those who watched the reply didt know about canelo-kirkland...
check other fights, most of the times on hbo the undercard does about 800k or 900k and the big fight does 1.2 or 1.3, this time wasnt even close...

[DreamerUSA]

this right here. Couldn't have said it any better. imo 60-40 if they fight in canelo's backyard or maybe 50/50 55/45 to fight in cotto's backyard. IMO its a win win for both fighters and their teams. They are selling it well imo cuz I've seen some postings on twitter than people are talking more about Cotto-Canelo than asking about floyd's next opponent.

In truth neither are really the A side here. There will have to be give and take on both sides if the fight is going to happen. Like you said if the money favors one guy than the other guy is probably going to get to pick the venue etc. If either side comes into negotiations with a swinging **** thinking they are going to get their way on everything, this fight is dead in the water.

[bojangles1987]

Cotto/Alvarez is an obvious 50-50 fight. Neither guys is so much more a star than the other to play the "A-side." Cotto has slightly more bargaining power because of his title and because he is at the end of his career, but that shouldn't amount to much more than being announced second and picking a venue. The money should be split, or damn close to split.

[-Johannes-]

They had all day boxing for the canelo even. Like 20 fights some shit like that. Cotto had virtually NO undercard and no floyd-pac replay with HBO hyping it saying "if you thought that was the fight of the century, tune in for our next fight."

its marketing 101 really and you got baited.

They have peak numbers for a reason, most people weren't around for the undercard fights. Hell most people don't care for undercards.

If you want to throw the Floyd/Pac excuse then how about we see how they both did with Floyd. Since you're implying the reason he pulled those numbers is because Floyd was involved.

Whether you like it or not, Canelo is the bigger draw. This has nothing to with skills or who's the better fighter so there's no need to defend this. Canelo has been the bigger draw for a while. I don't see how anyone can say Cotto is the A side when Canelo's fights habitually get better numbers than Cotto's.

[bojangles1987]

In truth neither are really the A side here. There will have to be give and take on both sides if the fight is going to happen. Like you said if the money favors one guy than the other guy is probably going to get to pick the venue etc. If either side comes into negotiations with a swinging **** thinking they are going to get their way on everything, this fight is dead in the water.

LOL, same thing I just posted. Well said. Alvarez having that mentality is why it didn't happen instead of Cotto fighting Geale. He wanted to be the big man with deadlines rather than wait until Mayweather/Pac was announced and Cotto wasn't waiting.

[bigjavi973]

[icha]

Canelo's tickets were $10 lol, Cotto's were not....

Canelo's number was riding Floyd's numbers once again like his only good PPV buy.

Cotto has done far better on his own /end thread.

look at post 23, those tickets were not even close, i still have the PM and you can go and check the locations at minute maid park website.. they had some cheap tickets but those were only the nose bleeds..