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Originally posted by OnePunch View Postweakest parallel ever. Now if GGG went up and won the lineal title at 168, and if Ward was his mando, but he ducked Ward and fought someone Ward smashed in 3 rounds, at a catchweight of 164, and in the post fight interview defended the ducking by claiming hes not really a super middleweight, THEN yeah, then it would be the same.
GTFOH with that nonsense
Dude, I think you are seriously overthinking this
Stay with me...
There is fcuk-all difference in 153lb Cotto fighting 160lb Golovkin at 160 (7lbs)..... than 160lb Golovkin fighting 168lb Ward at 168 (8lbs)..... especially considering that Golovkin said "I will fight anyone from 154-168".
I dont know what you were talking about..... lineal/mando/catchweight..... that stuff had nothing to do with the comparison that I made.
I am referring to how much of a challenge it would be, nothing more.
Golovkin - having a weak resume, and a cloud hanging over his level of competition - should have more motivation to establish himself as a top fighter..... whereas Cotto just wants a couple more paydays before he retires.
If someone is going to get bashed for failing to step up it should be the guy with no resume, despite fighting professionally for 9 years..... and not the proven guy who has stepped up on numerous occasions previously.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostWTF ?
Dude, I think you are seriously overthinking this
Stay with me...
There is fcuk-all difference in 153lb Cotto fighting 160lb Golovkin at 160 (7lbs)..... than 160lb Golovkin fighting 168lb Ward at 168 (8lbs)..... especially considering that Golovkin said "I will fight anyone from 154-168".
I dont know what you were talking about..... lineal/mando/catchweight..... that stuff had nothing to do with the comparison that I made.
I am referring to how much of a challenge it would be, nothing more.
Golovkin - having a weak resume, and a cloud hanging over his level of competition - should have more motivation to establish himself as a top fighter..... whereas Cotto just wants a couple more paydays before he retires.
If someone is going to get bashed for failing to step up it should be the guy with no resume, despite fighting professionally for 9 years..... and not the proven guy who has stepped up on numerous occasions previously.
Thats a little hard to do when the guys that would be considered a "step up" wont fight him.
Ward - needs tuneups, and everyone knows there isnt enough $$$ yet
Froch - seems to have vanished
Chavez - turned down $7 million
Quillin - thinks the fight needs to be as big as Floyd-Pac before he'll even consider it
Martinez - Dibella said "GTFOH no way we fight that monster"
Sturm - ducked GGG for years
so please enlighten us all as to the high profile "step-up" guys that GGG is ducking?
and as for the f^ck-all difference" you talk about, that difference is that Cotto is the lineal middleweight champion. That carries with it the obligation to defend it against the best challengers.
I know, its easy for fanboys like you to defend this garbage when its your idol doing it.
And FYI, should GGG go to 168 and try drying guys down to 164, I'll be the first one here calling it bull****......Last edited by OnePunch; 06-07-2015, 10:43 PM.
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I always liked Cotto. With that said, he beat a highly overrated broken old Martinez and he seems to be getting a hell of lot more credit for beating a fighter that GGG got little to no credit for when he did the same thing.
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Originally posted by Ravens Fan View PostI always liked Cotto. With that said, he beat a highly overrated broken old Martinez and he seems to be getting a hell of lot more credit for beating a fighter that GGG got little to no credit for when he did the same thing.
Yet Cotto dries him out into a zombie and now its the greatest win since Hagler beat Hearns lol
"Oh the old Cotto is BACK lalalalala"
haha
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostSo it has to be ppv. No prob..... Oh wait how many ppvs GGG has had?
Court blah blah blah. GGG said ward too much too soon before ward was inactive if I remember correctly.
Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostSo you saying GGG didn't say, "Ward too much, too soon"?
His team didn't state that the Ward fight doesn't make financial sense?
Sanchez did say it doesn't make financial sense, because it doesn't make financial sense. There isn't enough money in it for either of them. Sanchez also said - after that - that if Ward wanted the fight he should send Loefler an offer. Ward is the champion at 168, so the offer has to come from him.
And Ward's next fight will be at LHW, so please, just shut up about him in discussions about the MW title.
Stick to what is relevant - GGG is Cotto's mandatory, so why won't Cotto fight him?
"Erm ... umm ... W...W...Ward doe .. "
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostIf you were GGG you'd be ****ed lol.
GGG needs to be a good boy & go with the flow here. Cotto quit effing with Oscar & Canelo over making that fight in May cuz they were trying to act like it was only about Canelo. GGG don't bring the money Canelo brings so he just needs to chill out & wait. He's not gonna push Cotto into a decision & the one of the biggest names in the sport would be ****** to commit to any fight that isn't a HUGE fight for him.
If Floyd comes calling or Pacquiao comes calling or if Canelo vs Cotto is some epic **** & they wanna rematch right away Cotto's team don't want GGG in the way of any of that sorta **** & all that **** pays better. GGG is fun as **** to watch & I feel bad for the brother that he hasn't gotten that big fight yet, but he ain't gonna get it the why his team is trying to play their hand & rightfully so with how the boxing business works & it'll work that same way for GGG if he ever gets to that point so he needs to learn.
This crap being spewed that such and such is not a PPV fighter needs to stop otherwise following that logic all we'd ever see is the same 4 fighters fighting each other in perpetuity.
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FIRST,,,,,,,,It should be GGG vs COTTO not Cotto vs Canelo,,,
but there is a lot of FEAR going on.
GGG has PROVEN himself that he will fight anyone and is ready and not getting any younger.
COTTO has come from the DEAD,,
I have no idea who will win by a brutal KO between Cotto and Canelo
all I know is BOXING is back and MUCH ALIVE,
KNOCKOUTS !!!!!!!!
Them D!!!! CHICKENS can leave da HOUSE in a RUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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