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  • them_apples
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    #61
    Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.

    By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.

    Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.

    Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You cant give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.

    Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.
    Last edited by them_apples; 05-27-2015, 03:33 PM.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #62
      Originally posted by them_apples
      Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.

      By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.

      Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.

      Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You can give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.

      Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.

      Were you scoring all the punches that Maidana was hammer fisting Floyd with the bottom of his glove?

      Because those punches aren't suppose to count as they aren't clean scoring blows, and counting those are the only way you could say Maidana did more.

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        #63
        Originally posted by them_apples
        Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.

        By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.

        Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.

        Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You can give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.

        Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.
        When you throw fewer punches than Floyd, you can't claim to have "tried to make it a fight". You also clearly don't know **** about boxing.

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        • them_apples
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          #64
          Originally posted by b00g13man
          When you throw fewer punches than Floyd, you can't claim to have "tried to make it a fight". You also clearly don't know **** about boxing.
          LoL. Pacquiao was the agressor the entire fight

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            #65
            Originally posted by them_apples
            LoL. Pacquiao was the agressor the entire fight
            Yet he threw fewer punches. Does not compute.

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              #66
              Pacquiao threw like 80 more powershots, of course he was the aggressor.

              Floyd just running with jabs(well, it probabley had the same power as his actual "power" shots) doesn't make him the aggressor.

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                #67
                Originally posted by them_apples
                Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.

                By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.

                Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.

                Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You cant give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.

                Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.
                Who gives a damn who the aggressor is? That is not how you score a fight. Your making up your own rules. The scoring criteria is "effective aggression". If you are not effective with your aggression you get ZERO credit for it. Pacquiao's output was his lowest in history, his connects were the lowest in history, he was missing like crazy and he was getting connected on at greater than a 50% rate. He was steadily getting turned, missing punches, getting countered and falling for the SAME DAMN TRAP over and over again. There is nothing effective about getting hit with the same lead and/or counter right hand 100 times in a fight.


                Now that you guys are exposing yourselves I can understand why you are so confused about why fights are scored the way they are.
                Last edited by -PBP-; 05-27-2015, 04:28 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by them_apples
                  Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.

                  By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.

                  Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.

                  Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You cant give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.

                  Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.
                  Effective aggressiveness: A boxer demonstrates this trait when he consistently and successfully moves forward in a controlled manner.
                  Last edited by Calabis; 05-27-2015, 04:56 PM.

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                  • Calabis
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    Who gives a damn who the aggressor is? That is not how you score a fight. Your making up your own rules. The scoring criteria is "effective aggression". If you are not effective with your aggression you get ZERO credit for it. Pacquiao's output was his lowest in history, his connects were the lowest in history, he was missing like crazy and he was getting connected on at greater than a 50% rate. He was steadily getting turned, missing punches, getting countered and falling for the SAME DAMN TRAP over and over again. There is nothing effective about getting hit with the same lead and/or counter right hand 100 times in a fight.


                    Now that you guys are exposing yourselves I can understand why you are so confused about why fights are scored the way they are.
                    I already listed the criteria for scoring a fight....but its obvious dude is a troll. He will probably skip over your comment as well.

                    He has his mind made up.....I guess, if you walk forward, that means you obviously win in his eyes.....maybe one day he will realize counter punchers are usually not toe to toe guys and have won a ton of professional fights in their careers.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Pacquiao threw like 80 more powershots, of course he was the aggressor.

                      Floyd just running with jabs(well, it probabley had the same power as his actual "power" shots) doesn't make him the aggressor.
                      Ask Manny how they felt and why was he wincing



                      why did he look so worried about a soft right hand



                      why did he get reset? why didn't he continue with his "effective aggression" after this soft right hand

                      Last edited by Calabis; 05-27-2015, 05:14 PM.

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