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  • -PBP-
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    #31
    I'll take the bait.

    Originally posted by them_apples
    The problem with mayweather is he has found a way to beat the system, but not beat the boxer in front of him.
    This statement is ludicrous and I'll tell you why.

    There are a couple of reasons for this:
    Get ready to be destroyed.


    In Vegas they don't score draw rounds. If mayweather lands 3 more jabs, they give it to him. If nothing happens, he gets in by default.
    Boxing has four scoring criteria:

    Clean punching
    Effective Aggression
    Ring Generalship
    Defense

    Floyd defeats his opponents based on the unified rules of boxing. He is an extremely accurate puncher which is not debatable. People question the effectiveness of his punches but he always has fighters tentative and hesitant to throw. He is very quick with single shots and does this a number of ways:

    Use the pressure fighters aggressiveness against him and by baiting him into a check hook.

    Neutralize the opponents jab with the counter right hand over the top

    Stop the opponents momentum with jabs upstairs and downstairs.

    Wearing his opponents down with subtle body shots early in the fight

    It will take 3 pages to cover Floyd's entire arsenal. But these are some of the things he accomplished against Pacquiao. He used Manny's aggression against him and made him pay for throwing the range finding right jab.

    These issues cover all of the 4 scoring criteria. He's landing the cleaner shots, he's the more effective aggressor, he is clearly in complete control of most of the rounds and his opponent is not hitting him.

    Hence...Boxing lesson. In fact, the true definition of it.




    Running shouldn't be discriminated against since the sport is about hitting and not being hit. The real problem is when floyd buys time and kills 2 minutes of a round by staying away, then wins the round with about 30 seconds of activity.
    No offense but this is ignorance. Great boxers are masters of distance control and punch placement. Distance control means that you are in position to punch but you are either too far away or too close to be hit. He's not "buying time and running". That's an observation from the casual eye. A pure boxer wants to be selective with his shots, set traps and fight at his most effective range (fight in spots). Floyd's movement is purposeful. Many times he is forcing his opponent to reset or forcing him into a trap.


    These are 2 factors why people say he dominates (on the cards) but in reality he hasn't wooped anyone.
    He dominates on the cards because he lands the cleaner more effective shots, controls the pace of the fight, is extremely accurate with his punches, and makes his opponent miss.


    In theory I can see why pacquiao felt robbed, floyd was winning rounds by running, clinching and landing sometimes a single grazing right hand near the end to pick up a round that should have been a draw.
    Again, so much ignorance in this statement. What the casual eye sees as running and clinching a judge sees as one guy controlling the action, landing the more accurate shots and frustrating his opponent.

    I also question how anyone could have given floyd the first maidana fight? He certainly lost the first 6 rounds and maybe won 2 rounds near the end.
    After the initial onslaught he was in complete control. 115-113 Mayweather was the correct score.
    Last edited by -PBP-; 05-27-2015, 12:55 PM.

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    • Johnwoo8686
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      #32
      Originally posted by Easy Work.


      Lets see you b!tch about this TS
      Damn, Ali clinched more in one round than Floyd did in the entire fight against Pacquiao.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
        Did he?? Most ringside observers and historians will hell u liston probably took a dive. But what do I know. U keep crusading.
        He's talking about the first one where he quit on his stool.

        I also don't think he took a dive in the second one.

        With that said, Ali would get no respect at all today.

        He "ran" and "hugged" a lot more than Floyd does. Especially "hugging".

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          #34
          If you want to score the May-Pac 12-0 for Pacquiao go right ahead that's your prerogative but don't expect any sane or knowledgeable person to agree with you.

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          • SplitSecond
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            #35
            Originally posted by PBP
            I'll take the bait.



            This statement is ludicrous and I'll tell you why.



            Get ready to be destroyed.




            Boxing has four scoring criteria:

            Clean punching
            Effective Aggression
            Ring Generalship
            Defense

            Floyd defeats his opponents based on the unified rules of boxing. He is an extremely accurate puncher which is not debatable. People question the effectiveness of his punches but he always has fighters tentative and hesitant to throw. He is very quick with single shots and does this a number of ways:

            Use the pressure fighters aggressiveness against him and by baiting him into a check hook.

            Neutralize the opponents jab with the counter right hand over the top

            Stop the opponents momentum with jabs upstairs and downstairs.

            Wearing his opponents down with subtle body shots early in the fight

            It will take 3 pages to cover Floyd's entire arsenal. But these are some of the things he accomplished against Pacquiao. He used Manny's aggression against him and made him pay for throwing the range finding right jab.

            These issues cover all of the 4 scoring criteria. He's landing the cleaner shots, he's the more effective aggressor, he is clearly in complete control of most of the rounds and his opponent is not hitting him.

            Hence...Boxing lesson. In fact, the true definition of it.






            No offense but this is ignorance. Great boxers are masters of distance control and punch placement. Distance control means that you are in position to punch but you are either too far away or too close to be hit. He's not "buying time and running". That's an observation from the casual eye. A pure boxer wants to be selective with his shots, set traps and fight at his most effective range (fight in spots). Floyd's movement is purposeful. Many times he is forcing his opponent to reset or forcing him into a trap.




            He dominates on the cards because he lands the cleaner more effective shots, controls the pace of the fight, is extremely accurate with his punches, and makes his opponent miss.




            Again, so much ignorance in this statement. What the casual eye sees as running and clinching a judge sees as one gay controlling the action, landing the more accurate shots and frustrating his opponent.



            After the initial onslaught he was in complete control. 115-113 Mayweather was the correct score.

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            • Skilled Nation
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              #36
              This sport is called BOXING ain't no rockem sockem robots sit yo ass down with that macho sht son.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #37
                Originally posted by Skilled Nation
                This sport is called BOXING ain't no rockem sockem robots sit yo ass down with that macho sht son.
                Boxing is fighting within it's rules. Boxing isn't simply "out-boxing". "In-fighting" is boxing. Swarming is boxing. All of this can be done with high level of skill and efficiency.

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                • SplitSecond
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                  #38
                  Lol PBP you edited it, now your post is not as accurate.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    I'll take the bait.



                    This statement is ludicrous and I'll tell you why.



                    Get ready to be destroyed.




                    Boxing has four scoring criteria:

                    Clean punching
                    Effective Aggression
                    Ring Generalship
                    Defense

                    Floyd defeats his opponents based on the unified rules of boxing. He is an extremely accurate puncher which is not debatable. People question the effectiveness of his punches but he always has fighters tentative and hesitant to throw. He is very quick with single shots and does this a number of ways:

                    Use the pressure fighters aggressiveness against him and by baiting him into a check hook.

                    Neutralize the opponents jab with the counter right hand over the top

                    Stop the opponents momentum with jabs upstairs and downstairs.

                    Wearing his opponents down with subtle body shots early in the fight

                    It will take 3 pages to cover Floyd's entire arsenal. But these are some of the things he accomplished against Pacquiao. He used Manny's aggression against him and made him pay for throwing the range finding right jab.

                    These issues cover all of the 4 scoring criteria. He's landing the cleaner shots, he's the more effective aggressor, he is clearly in complete control of most of the rounds and his opponent is not hitting him.

                    Hence...Boxing lesson. In fact, the true definition of it.






                    No offense but this is ignorance. Great boxers are masters of distance control and punch placement. Distance control means that you are in position to punch but you are either too far away or too close to be hit. He's not "buying time and running". That's an observation from the casual eye. A pure boxer wants to be selective with his shots, set traps and fight at his most effective range (fight in spots). Floyd's movement is purposeful. Many times he is forcing his opponent to reset or forcing him into a trap.




                    He dominates on the cards because he lands the cleaner more effective shots, controls the pace of the fight, is extremely accurate with his punches, and makes his opponent miss.




                    Again, so much ignorance in this statement. What the casual eye sees as running and clinching a judge sees as one guy controlling the action, landing the more accurate shots and frustrating his opponent.



                    After the initial onslaught he was in complete control. 115-113 Mayweather was the correct score.
                    All that needs to be said really. These fools have literally no idea how to score rounds.

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                    • meme_man
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                      #40
                      The weeks leading up to the fight PAC fans was on a rampage where dey go tho?

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