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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #51
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    How is it arguable if Froch is better than Andre "Zero good wins" Dirrell?

    Like I just said, styles make fights.

    That's like saying it's debatable if Calzaghe is better than Robin Reid. For my money Robin Reid beat him.
    Because Dirrell made Froch look foolish at times and arguably should have got that decision.

    Calzaghe-Reid was a good close fight, I think even Reid admitted he lost to Calzaghe who injured his hand in the fight.

    I think the Kessler fights will always hurt Froch when people try to claim he was better than Calzaghe. Calzaghe showed he was a class above, Froch could fight him 50 times and they'd share wins. It's not about styles, it's about levels.

    Although I think Froch-Calzaghe wouldn't necessarily be the whitewash a lot of people think.

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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Calzaghe is the exact same.

      He's pally to his face and then starts things like this. Cazlaghe is the guy who tweeted first here.

      If you're saying a guy won't say something to your face you're saying they're scared to confront you.
      Come on Dan, there was a point in Froch's career where he wouldn't do an interview without mentioning Calzaghe. He might still be doing it if he hadn't KO'd Groves in front of 80K at Wembley Stadium.

      I think Calzaghe "started this" by giving his opinion on a DeGale-Froch fight. I don't think he was trying to wind up Froch but Carl took it to heart.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Because Dirrell made Froch look foolish at times and arguably should have got that decision.

        Calzaghe-Reid was a good close fight, I think even Reid admitted he lost to Calzaghe who injured his hand in the fight.

        I think the Kessler fights will always hurt Froch when people try to claim he was better than Calzaghe. Calzaghe showed he was a class above, Froch could fight him 50 times and they'd share wins. It's not about styles, it's about levels.

        Although I think Froch-Calzaghe wouldn't necessarily be the whitewash a lot of people think.
        Robin Reid defintely didn't admit that. Reid says he won. And if he did say that, he's changed his mind because he defintely thought he then and thinks won now. Many people thought he won.

        So Froch argubaly isn't better than Dirrell, because Dirrell arguably won? What sense does that make?

        What's the difference between that and saying Robin Reid is better than Calzaghe? There literally isn't one.

        It is about styles. Much like Marquez and Pacquaio, they have a style that meshs, styles that gives each other problems. It's like saying Freddie Norwood is levels above Pacquaio because he beat a fresher Marquez and Pacquaio had 3 razor close fights and was sparked out in the 4th.
        Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-25-2015, 05:22 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          I don't think either situation is anything to do with being scared of each other.

          Last time I saw them together, Froch was being very pally pally with Calzaghe - even admitting that Joe would beat him on points if he didn't get the KO - but always seems to drop in snide remarks in OTHER interviews or on Twatter. He does the same with Amir Khan.

          Pretty sure this is what Calzaghe is referring to.
          they're both total narcissists. guys like that can never be mates

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            #55
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Come on Dan, there was a point in Froch's career where he wouldn't do an interview without mentioning Calzaghe. He might still be doing it if he hadn't KO'd Groves in front of 80K at Wembley Stadium.

            I think Calzaghe "started this" by giving his opinion on a DeGale-Froch fight. I don't think he was trying to wind up Froch but Carl took it to heart.
            He's blatantly taking a cheap dig at him. He's wording the tweet to get a reaction.

            Well yeah Froch mentioned Calzaghe a lot because he wants to fight him then was bitter he didn't give him an opportunity. I understand that.

            He doesn't as much any more because he's surpassed him.

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              #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Robin Reid defintely didn't admit that. Reid says he won. And if he did say that, he's changed his mind because he defintely thought he then and thinks won now. Many people thought he won.
              Reid, the heavier puncher, continually hit the 26-year-old champion with his right but was unable to land the killer blow.

              But each round Calzaghe, the quicker man, hit back with damaging punches of his own.

              Reid said: "I can't argue with the decision. Joe was the better boxer on the night and I knew I could not catch him for speed."


              He's changed his mind because it's easier to stay relevant by saying you beat Joe Calzaghe when you're forced to do **** to earn a crust.

              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              So Froch argubaly isn't better than Dirrell, because Dirrell arguably won? What sense does that make?

              What's the difference between that and saying Robin Reid is better than Calzaghe? There literally isn't one.
              Because I think even if they fought now, Dirrell might still beat Froch whereas it seemed more that Calzaghe had a bad night because of a serious hand injury.
              Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 05-25-2015, 08:57 AM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut
                You forgot to put about half of Froch's replies you fool.
                Notably this one below, thread title is kinda biased too but OP is a Khan fan so he won't be high on Froch.


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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  He's blatantly taking a cheap dig at him. He's wording the tweet to get a reaction.

                  Well yeah Froch mentioned Calzaghe a lot because he wants to fight him then was bitter he didn't give him an opportunity. I understand that.

                  He doesn't as much any more because he's surpassed him.
                  Why was it a cheap dig? I think he appreciates DeGale's style more because its more similar to him and thinks he'd beat Froch. He wanted a reaction from the fans, don't even think he linked Froch's Twatter in the post.

                  From what I've seen, Joe posts about fights and future fights a lot. Not just Froch.

                  Froch was ****ing on about him long after he retired. Surpassed? Disagree. Froch has a deeper resume but again, he didn't win all those fights. He never proved he was a level above Kessler. He never moved up to LHW. I don't think he's surpassed Calzaghe at all.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Reid, the heavier puncher, continually hit the 26-year-old champion with his right but was unable to land the killer blow.

                    But each round Calzaghe, the quicker man, hit back with damaging punches of his own.

                    Reid said: "I can't argue with the decision. Joe was the better boxer on the night and I knew I could not catch him for speed."


                    He's changed his mind because it's easier to stay relevant by saying you beat Joe Calzaghe when you're forced to do **** to earn a crust.



                    Because I think even if they fought now, Dirrell might still beat Froch whereas it seemed more that Calzaghe had a bad night because of a serious hand injury.
                    What's is this quote supposed to prove? That he can't argue with the decision? He can't. It wasn't a robbery.

                    But it was a very close fight that could easily have gone the other way.

                    He said he thought he won at the time of the fight aswell.Like I said many thought he won Including myself.

                    What does that matter anyway? The fact is Reid arguably won. Is Reid arguably better than Calzaghe? No.

                    Dirrell hasn't got a chance with Froch now. Zero. Dirrell literally has no decent wins. Not a single one. He was on his way to getting stopped by Arthur Abraham until he bailed out with the DQ.

                    Froch was inexperienced when he fought Dirrell aswell. His second title Defence.

                    Don't care for the excuses. He always had hand issues. Fact is he arguably lost to Reid just like Froch arguably lost to Dirrell.

                    If it's arguable that Dirrell is better than Froch then it's arguable that Reid is better than Calzaghe.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Why was it a cheap dig? I think he appreciates DeGale's style more because its more similar to him and thinks he'd beat Froch. He wanted a reaction from the fans, don't even think he linked Froch's Twatter in the post.

                      From what I've seen, Joe posts about fights and future fights a lot. Not just Froch.

                      Froch was ****ing on about him long after he retired. Surpassed? Disagree. Froch has a deeper resume but again, he didn't win all those fights. He never proved he was a level above Kessler. He never moved up to LHW. I don't think he's surpassed Calzaghe at all.
                      "I think he'd whoop Froch"

                      Surely that doesn't need explaining why that is a cheap dig?

                      His resume is much better and not just opponents but wins. So for me he's surpassed him. He's surpassed him as a fighter and surpassed him in popularity.

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