Froch gets Cobra'd by Sir Joe!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What's is this quote supposed to prove? That he can't argue with the decision? He can't. It wasn't a robbery.

But it was a very close fight that could easily have gone the other way.

He said he thought he won at the time of the fight aswell.Like I said many thought he won Including myself.

What does that matter anyway? The fact is Reid arguably won. Is Reid arguably better than Calzaghe? No.

Dirrell hasn't got a chance with Froch now. Zero. Dirrell literally has no decent wins. Not a single one. He was on his way to getting stopped by Arthur Abraham until he bailed out with the DQ.

Froch was inexperienced when he fought Dirrell aswell. His second title Defence.

Don't care for the excuses. He always had hand issues. Fact is he arguably lost to Reid just like Froch arguably lost to Dirrell.

If it's arguable that Dirrell is better than Froch then it's arguable that Reid is better than Calzaghe.

Froch was inexperienced?

Dirrell was what? 25? And never been close to that level of fight and he was in Froch's backyard and made him look foolish at times.

Calzaghe was inexperienced against Reid who was a former world champion. It was a good back n forth fight where Reid admitted Calzaghe was the better boxer on the night. I don't remember Calzaghe being made to look like a rank amateur, the way Froch did at times against Dirrell.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

"I think he'd whoop Froch"

Surely that doesn't need explaining why that is a cheap dig?

His resume is much better and not just opponents but wins. So for me he's surpassed him. He's surpassed him as a fighter and surpassed him in popularity.

Don't see it as a cheap dig. Just an opinion. Froch is always going on about people "whooping" people - are they cheap digs? DeGale may very well whoop Froch.

What wins? Froch's best win is an older version of Mikkel Kessler who Calzaghe completely emasculated in Cardiff. I don't see it.

[Skip Bayless]

joe is right up to a point, froch really was a nobody when he was calling out joe. he had 0 names on his resume at the time joe retired.

[BennyST]

I can't see Froch having much, if any, chance against Calzaghe. Just an awful style matchup for him, arguably worse than Ward. Wouldn't KO him, doesn't have the speed or skill to outbox him, nor the output or savvy to outfight him.

Easy decision for Calzaghe IMO. Might be a good fight though.

I don't see the gap in resume frankly. But I've always thought Frochs gets massively overrated. It's good, but some people talk as if it's the best in boxing or some ridiculous ****e.

Hopkins and prime Kessler is better than anything on Frochs. He might be top heavy, but he has the higher quality best wins and still could be argued as close to the depth. Or are we all going to pretend that wins like Dirrell (literally nothing more than an overhyped contender that could never win when he stepped up) are great for Froch now? Froch may have more depth of good wins and it's certainly not much, but that doesn't trump Calzaghe having the best wins out of both, plus the longevity, two divisions and being unified, lineal champ. Just my opinion though.

[LacedUp]

He's fought in a better era of Super Middleweights but has never been the number 1. Calzaghe unified every single title.

He had two close battles with an older version of Kessler over 3 or 4 years who Calzaghe made look foolish when he was undefeated in 2007.

Much better and much deeper era - and he might not have been number 1, but he's the one having defended against the better opponents for the last 4 years. Might as well have been number one. And it's not like Calzaghe gets bonus points for having fought 19 times against half-decent opposition when Froch has defended against top 3 opponents time after time for the past decade almost.

Kessler had one hand in that fight? Why are we overlooking this.

[SalimShady1212]

Cobra'd? No way, but Calzaghe would win a comfortable UD. High workrate and a very good chin. Froch even admitted on ringside ages ago that he needed to get Calzaghe out of there early. His words not mine. #WarCalzaghe

[LacedUp]

We'll never know. It's debatable if Froch is even better than Andre Dirrell. And he's been neck and neck with Kessler who Calzaghe embarrassed.

When did this happen?

[Chrismart]

I enjoyed this tweet from Froch :

@RealJoeCalzaghe Yet you've crumbled in my company on many occasions & you know when! You're always talking about me!! #Jealous #obsessed


I'm a big fan of both fighters. At the time i didn't want Calzaghe to face Froch, i thought he had earned the right to go over to America and go out with a ****.

Comparing the 2 now. I think Calzaghe is the better fighter and would win in a 'fantasy' fight. I think it would be a competitive fight though and Froch would KD Calzaghe. But i'd pick Clazaghe via UD.

That said, i think Froch has the better CV of fights now.

[LacedUp]

Don't see it as a cheap dig. Just an opinion. Froch is always going on about people "whooping" people - are they cheap digs? DeGale may very well whoop Froch.

What wins? Froch's best win is an older version of Mikkel Kessler who Calzaghe completely emasculated in Cardiff. I don't see it.

What wins? Seriously?

Took Dirrell's 0. Took Pascal's 0. Took Groves' 0. Took Bute's 0. More or less took Abraham's 0. Damaged jermain taylor for life (and bute) and beat Kessler.

All of these were either world champions when they fought or became world champions after - except for Groves who is favourite to become champ in his next fight.

I'd say those wins are pretty good.

[talz]

Froch got beat by a war torn Kessler and the only reason he won in the rematch was because Kessler was coming of a 13 month semi-retirement. A prime Kessler always beats froch in my opinion. As for Joe, he is levels above Froch like Ward is, Calzaghe-Ward is a fight I'd love to have seen though.