Who becomes the next 'PPV Star' after Floyd?

[Mitchell Kane]

It's not simply a matter of someone beating May or Pac to pass the torch but that someone has to be gravitational. JMM already knocked out Pacman but his next PPV against Bradley (who also "beat" pac) pulled around 400k PPV buys.

Marquez IV wasn't a passing-the-torch fight.

For starters, it was their fourth fight.

Marquez is around 5 years older than Pacquiao, and was like 39 years old when the fight happened.

For a pass-the-torch fight, like DLH-Chavez, or May-DLH, you need a fighter on the rise.

With Pac-DLH, it wasn't even clear it would pass the torch, but it became that.

Lennox Lewis-Vitali Klitschko, in some ways, became that...if not in the ring that night, then when Lewis announced his retirment.

Canelo had a chance to do it against Mayweather, and came up well short.

Canelo may get another chance if they make the Cotto fight, but he's going to actually have to deliver.

HBO and GBP can only put him in position to do it.

As for what current fights could be made that might at least have the potential for this kind of fight, maybe Cotto-Canelo, Mayweather-Thurman, Klitschko-Wilder.

[Scipio2009]

English-speaking, charismatic, world-level ability, and someone with an angle that would hook the casual boxing, and casual sports, fan.

-"The Bronze Bomber" Deontay Wilder
-Andre "SOG" Ward
-Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (if he ever gets to be conversational in English)
-"One Time" Keith Thurman
-"The Special One" Kell Brook
-Danny "Swift" Garcia
-Omar Figueroa Jr (if he develops into being a much better fighter)

[used only BoxRec's p4p Top 100, but if looking beyond that limitation, you could add names like Anthony Joshua, Errol Spence Jr, Joseph Diaz Jr, etc]

[Scipio2009]

It's not simply a matter of someone beating May or Pac to pass the torch but that someone has to be gravitational. JMM already knocked out Pacman but his next PPV against Bradley (who also "beat" pac) pulled around 400k PPV buys. Like it or not it will have to be someone like Canelo, GGG, or Thurman to beat them in order to create that next big draw. I can actually see Canelo beating Pac, but to be honest all this talk about making every upcoming name fight Pac and Mayweather regardless of weight class is pretty annoying. If someone like Wilder could cut down to middle weight, people would expect him to fight Mayweather.

Marquez knocked out Pacquiao to then do 400k PPVs because Marquez never crossed over to the American PPV audience (while also not having a really sellable opponent, or a promoter willing to put the time/money behind building the event).

Marquez going on ESPN First Take, and making the effort to hold the interview in English (though jumping to Spanish late for a moment) helped a lot. Put Marquez and Bradley (even if they had to wallow through talk of the Pacquiao-Bradley I decision for a while), would've put both faces in front of the general sports fan, would've had both guys selling the fight in English, and likely would've helped the PPV.

You put Golovkin on a show like First Take, and there's a sincere fear that he'd come off sounding terrible; Canelo not interviewing in English wouldn't help things much more either (neither guy would really even need to know general sports info).

[Mitchell Kane]

Have you heard either of these guys talk?

Does that really matter?

Pacquiao became a ppv star without speaking English very well, and as Forbes pointed out, he's had deals with the likes of Nike, Nestle, Hennessy, Hewlett-Packard, Wonder Pistachios, Sony, Monster Energy, San Miguel Beer, Foot Locker.

[Mitchell Kane]

Thurman, Crawford, Verdejo

I think if it was goign to happen for Garcia, it would have happened by now.

Hard to see him, at this point of his career, going up to 147 and becoming a PPV "star" there.

I'm not sure Thurman or Crawford can become PPV "stars" unless they get fights with Mayweather or Pacquiao, and beat them.

Even then, I'm not sure it makes them "stars", but it would give them a chance.

Too early to tell with Verdejo.

[SkillspayBills]

Canelo. Definitely Wilder if he is even kind of good. People love HW's man.

Arum said even more than Crawford and Loma, Verdejo is the real star in his stable. I tend to listen to him when it comes to that particular subject.

[Santa_]

Canelo.

People forget that he's 24 and was only 22 when he fought Mayweather.



Leo Santa Cruz.

People will recognize his greatness when he wins a title at 126 and becomes a 3 weight champ.



Juan Francisco Estrada.

He'll be an instant Hall Of Famer when he beats Chocolatito in the rematch.



Errol Spence Jr.

He was destined for greatness ever since knocking out Broner in sparring. With only 2 years in the pro ranks I say he's ready for a title shot.

[Mike D]

Canelo.

People forget that he's 24 and was only 22 when he fought Mayweather.



Leo Santa Cruz.

People will recognize his greatness when he wins a title at 126 and becomes a 3 weight champ.



Juan Francisco Estrada.

He'll be an instant Hall Of Famer when he beats Chocolatito in the rematch.



Errol Spence Jr.

He was destined for greatness ever since knocking out Broner in sparring. With only 2 years in the pro ranks I say he's ready for a title shot.

Lol at LSC being a future PPV star

[The Champions]

Canelo. Definitely Wilder if he is even kind of good. People love HW's man.

Arum said even more than Crawford and Loma, Verdejo is the real star in his stable. I tend to listen to him when it comes to that particular subject.

Alvarez is surrounded by as.s whippings.

He's not good enough to be the next ppv star.

He has the fan base,but not the skills,size,or stanima.

[Mike D]

Right now Canelo is the third biggest draw in the sport behind Floyd & Manny, and with both Pac & May on the doorstep of exiting the sport, Canelo would be the next in line. I think Gennady has an outside shot of reaching PPV superstardom, but he needs to move fast since he's 32 or 33 or whatever. If Gennady gets in with somebody like Canelo and KOs him I think that could propel him.