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  • #31
    Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
    His competition has been garbage since estrada aside from akira. He could fight;
    Viloria
    Amnat
    Reveco
    Ioka
    Estrada
    Arroyo

    You're acting like there's no one there to fight, roman hasn't fought one top ten guy in ages aside from akira.

    Hernandez, Moi, Chokchai, Casimero, hell even Saludar and Mthalane. Apparently beating Sosa, Yaegashi and 4 journeymen is considered cleaning up the deepest division in the sport.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
      Hernandez, Moi, Chokchai, Casimero, hell even Saludar and Mthalane. Apparently beating Sosa, Yaegashi and 4 journeymen is considered cleaning up the deepest division in the sport.
      I hate agreeing with Estrada's pillow fluffer but hes right. This has been Gonzalaez's mo his entire career. a couple of good fights followed by some pretty crap ones. Thought he broke out of that but i guess im wrong. I hope HBO doesnt buy any more mismatches.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View Post
        I hate agreeing with Estrada's pillow fluffer but hes right. This has been Gonzalaez's mo his entire career. a couple of good fights followed by some pretty crap ones. Thought he broke out of that but i guess im wrong. I hope HBO doesnt buy any more mismatches.
        I take it as a compliment my good sir

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
          Hernandez, Moi, Chokchai, Casimero, hell even Saludar and Mthalane. Apparently beating Sosa, Yaegashi and 4 journeymen is considered cleaning up the deepest division in the sport.
          Those would be solid wins we can respect, young guys with good records. Instead he keeps fighting guys in their 30's or guys who aren't even top 20. Why can amnat fight casimero and shiming but roman can't fight guys like that? Shiming ain't much but atleast he was young and undefeated.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
            Yaegshi was his best win in 6 years or so. Estrada wasn't a notable win until recently, having proven himself in a different division than where they fought.

            He beat all the top flyweights? Like who? Name them, Estrada may be a flyweight now but that fight was at 108, not 112. Fuentes? Come on, you're a joke.

            He's definetly not big enough to fight at super fly? Are you sure about that? Seeing as how you're posing to be a massive Roman fan you would know he has fought at super fly on more than one occasion before, right?

            By the way, I'm still waiting on you to name a fighter on Leo's resume worse than Valentin
            Has Cruz fought anybody as good as Yagashi or Estrada.....NO. Gonzalez would demolish Valoria...Valoria got his ass beat by Estrada! Ioka... I agree would be a good fight. But Ioka is unknown in the West. I'm not saying Segura is deserving whatsoever, I am just saying Segura has a following from his wars with Tyson and this will be beneficial for Gonzalez. It had only been 1 fight with HBO if by his 3rd or 4th fighting hes still fighting competition on the levels of Sosa and Seguras then it's a problem. Hbo is notorious for building up fighters first then testing them!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
              Those would be solid wins we can respect, young guys with good records. Instead he keeps fighting guys in their 30's or guys who aren't even top 20. Why can amnat fight casimero and shiming but roman can't fight guys like that? Shiming ain't much but atleast he was young and undefeated.
              He also beat an undefeated Ioka, Fuentes before Roman got his hands on him, Arroyo and possibly Casimero soon. These fanboys can miss me with that "Roman has bad promoters" talk. Amnat is landing those fights constantly and has been facing excellent opposition for his last 4 or 5 fights now with under 20 wins in his record. He may be in his mid thirties, but a win over him would truly solidify Roman as the best in the division, without doubt.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
                He also beat an undefeated Ioka, Fuentes before Roman got his hands on him, Arroyo and possibly Casimero soon. These fanboys can miss me with that "Roman has bad promoters" talk. Amnat is landing those fights constantly and has been facing excellent opposition for his last 4 or 5 fights now with under 20 wins in his record. He may be in his mid thirties, but a win over him would truly solidify Roman as the best in the division, without doubt.
                Ya man, if amnat beats casimero his résumé is stacked and that's with very few fights. Estrada should push for that amnat fight, I think he'd win. That would put him above roman.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mabulkhair View Post
                  Has Cruz fought anybody as good as Yagashi or Estrada.....NO. Gonzalez would demolish Valoria...Valoria got his ass beat by Estrada! Ioka... I agree would be a good fight. But Ioka is unknown in the West. I'm not saying Segura is deserving whatsoever, I am just saying Segura has a following from his wars with Tyson and this will be beneficial for Gonzalez. It had only been 1 fight with HBO if by his 3rd or 4th fighting hes still fighting competition on the levels of Sosa and Seguras then it's a problem. Hbo is notorious for building up fighters first then testing them!

                  My main point is that this trend is a constant throughout his career, you can't disregard facts simply because he's fighting on HBO now . Roman is apparently intrigued by a Segura or Viloria clash, two opponents Estrada beat himself, how does that make you feel?

                  Regarding Leo, I'm not questioning the fact that Roman has faced far better names, I'm asking a question you have yet to answer... Is there a name on his record worse than Roman's previous opponent, yes or no? You brought him up and dug your own grave, now deal with it

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
                    My main point is that this trend is a constant throughout his career, you can't disregard facts simply because he's fighting on HBO now . Roman is apparently intrigued by a Segura or Viloria clash, two opponents Estrada beat himself, how does that make you feel?

                    Regarding Leo, I'm not questioning the fact that Roman has faced far better names, I'm asking a question you have yet to answer... Is there a name on his record worse than Roman's previous opponent, yes or no? You brought him up and dug your own grave, now deal with it
                    Jorge Romero 0-1-0 hahaha. And records btw don't mean anything. Look at Darnell Boone has an atrocious record but seems to give everyone a tough test. Rogers Mtagwa is another example, had a terrible record but posed problems. I'd rather fighter someone that's a boxer rather than a taxi driver.

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                    • #40
                      I don't want to see this fight.

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