Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Has Been Blood Tested Over 12 Times

[Espy]

why do you think i am trying to scare you with my question?

When you pose the question with "can you answer these questions then, Mr. Smart Guy?" it insinuates that you are assuming that you have stumped me.

A. Nobody can explain that without speculation and that is precisely my point.

Floyd fans where crying and whining that Floyd is not being given credit he was due but he is the one who is making all this speculations about him.

I didn't see anybody crying in this thread about Floyd not being given credit. The majority of responses in this thread are baseless PED accusations and people whining about Roach's claim that Pac has been tested 12 times (although there isn't any tangible proof to support this claim). They then say Mayweather is juicing because there is no proof that he is being tested. Is this not hypocrisy? What about in the case of Rios v Pac? There was video of Rios testing but no videos of Pac. Does that mean Pac was juicing by extension? Regardless of personal opinions there is no proof on either side. This is all just baseless hypocrisy.

B. Scenario A is random in a sense that they did came unannounced. but how are the USADA able to know when and where the subject of the random drug test will be if they will not call first to ask the subjects whereabouts?

All drug testing methods are fallible. Just as you have pointed out "random" blood testing isn't as random as you are led to believe because the agency must locate the fighters to administer tests thus giving them some form of notice. This is still not proof that Mayweather juiced. Just like Pac declining drug testing w/ no cutoff dates is not proof that Pac was juicing. It is all speculation and opinion.

it is not relevant to your post on this thread per se, but i remember you talking about legallity with slander and everything and there was a legal question in my post so most probably i thought you could provide an answer.

Fair enough. Sorry if my response seemed somewhat hostile. Respect.

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[BOXEO _]

Is anybody surprised by this? Floyd has the USADA in the bag.

[Rath]

not to my knowledge, there also weren't these many drug testing articles with manny and vada around those fights either, but we did get exclusive interviews with bradley and rios talking about vada testing. thats why I'm trying to figure out why is it so publicized now if it wasn't then. but hey gotta feed something to the trolls i guess.

it must and should be publicized now more than ever because, Floyd contention that the fight negotiation fails the first time was because Pac rejection of Floyd style random drug test.

[Dempsey-Roll]

Would be pretty funny if Pac manage to win.
I wonder what would be the new excuse.

[In Motion]

Called RANDOM TESTING for a reason. For all you know Floyd could have been tested over 20 times.

[kamikaze_ero]

Yeah its irreverent bringing up Manny forcing Rios and Bradley to be tested and not being tested himself , no room for that sht in a Manny excuse thread .

the difference is pac has no control of VADA while floyd has had history of USADA protecting him like hiding his 3x ped positive result,manipulating the start of testing,instructing to wait 5hours so he can cycle off ped, directing not to test him but made it appear that he took th test.USADA also known of throwing the positive ped samples of wrinky wrigth...

[Espy]

if you could provide me all of Floyd's video of the random drug test performed by USADA with his fights against Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo, and Maidana 1 and 2. I will provide you with all Pac's video of his VADA test.

DEAL?

Why? For this argument to hold any weight you would have to be able to produce VADA testing videos for every fight Manny underwent testing for. Does this would mean that if there is ONE fight that you can't produce a video of VADA testing for, that Manny is juicing? In this case did Manny juice for the Rios fight?

Remember this is what you are insinuating by your comment. These are not MY opinions. You are suggesting that Manny has been tested more on video than Floyd. You are suggesting that since Floyd is not on video there must be something shady happening. By extension there must have been something shady happening in the Pac camp during the Rios fight.

What do you think about this?

[Rath]

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why do you think i am trying to scare you with my question?

When you pose the question with "can you answer these questions then, Mr. Smart Guy?" it insinuates that you are assuming that you have stumped me.

most of the time when i am trying to stump a poster i uses geniuses not smart man

A. Nobody can explain that without speculation and that is precisely my point.

Floyd fans where crying and whining that Floyd is not being given credit he was due but he is the one who is making all this speculations about him.

I didn't see anybody crying in this thread about Floyd not being given credit. The majority of responses in this thread are baseless PED accusations and people whining about Roach's claim that Pac has been tested 12 times (although there isn't any tangible proof to support this claim). They then say Mayweather is juicing because there is no proof that he is being tested. Is this not hypocrisy? What about in the case of Rios v Pac? There was video of Rios testing but no videos of Pac. Does that mean Pac was juicing by extension? Regardless of personal opinions there is no proof on either side. This is all just baseless hypocrisy.

on this thread no, none yet

B. Scenario A is random in a sense that they did came unannounced. but how are the USADA able to know when and where the subject of the random drug test will be if they will not call first to ask the subjects whereabouts?

All drug testing methods are fallible. Just as you have pointed out "random" blood testing isn't as random as you are led to believe because the agency must locate the fighters to administer tests thus giving them some form of notice. This is still not proof that Mayweather juiced. Just like Pac declining drug testing w/ no cutoff dates is not proof that Pac was juicing. It is all speculation and opinion.

it is not relevant to your post on this thread per se, but i remember you talking about legallity with slander and everything and there was a legal question in my post so most probably i thought you could provide an answer.

Fair enough. Sorry if my response seemed somewhat hostile. Respect.

none taken

[youbeight]

it must and should be publicized now more than ever because, Floyd contention that the fight negotiation fails the first time was because Pac rejection of Floyd style random drug test.

so why wasn't there these kinds of video and articles from 2009-2014. ? if you wanted to prove a point, ideally it woulda been then.

[Reloaded]

it must and should be publicized now more than ever because, Floyd contention that the fight negotiation fails the first time was because Pac rejection of Floyd style random drug test.

Quick stop the fight lol .

You Manny fans are shting your pants like never before lol .

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