Comments Thread For: Golden Boy, ABC, WBO Join In Pending Haymon Lawsuit

[Scipio2009]

So we should admire him for being a crook and making crappie fights? More Garcia vs Salka if Haymon has his way. I'm not on board with the Haymon fake UFC plan. Where none of his fighters are allowed to face the best fighters in the world. Instead just wack in house mismatches. No thank you not going to applaud this fool.

Everyone always point to that single crap fight, to try and sully every fight that he's ever been apart of.

Name 5 crap fights that Haymon has helped put on? I'd honestly bet that you could find ten crap Arum or Duva fights before you find ten crap ones from Haymon.

[Pigeons]

Other than for possibly the hard core Chavez fans I believe most on this forum realized that Junior was going to get exposed. After all even his own father knew it was going to happen. As for the casual boxing fans, however you want to define them, in my opinion boxing on free TV won't survive without them. And unfortunately they are already leaving. As far as the premier match making by PBC. I have to ask. Who decided to have the Degale-Dirrell fight in Boston? What ties do either fighter have to the city? The Red Sox are also playing at home that day, is that such a great idea?

They are trying to build an audience across the U.S. Not just in TX and CA.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Other than for possibly the hard core Chavez fans I believe most on this forum realized that Junior was going to get exposed. After all even his own father knew it was going to happen. As for the casual boxing fans, however you want to define them, in my opinion boxing on free TV won't survive without them. And unfortunately they are already leaving. As far as the premier match making by PBC. I have to ask. Who decided to have the Degale-Dirrell fight in Boston? What ties do either fighter have to the city? The Red Sox are also playing at home that day, is that such a great idea?

Yes , everyone knew Chavez was gonna eventually get exposed as he's a hyped up sloth , but what everyone didnt know was that it was gonna happen that night . Secondly , whether PBC boxing survives or not , won't put a new nickel in my pocket or take one away so it doesn't really matter cause I pay for the full cable package anyway , so let the chips fall where they may . Thirdly , I can care less where Dirrell fights as long as its on TV

[Beater_of_ass]

His investors are investing in a league it sounded like from the last big article. So if there is no league I'd assume there are no investors & long live HBO vs Showtime & the 4 world champions landscape that everyone seems to love so much since PBC came into the game.

Hating on PBC? Everything Haymon has been sued for he's lost on, at least recently. Oscar for taking all his talent, Arum for stealing Chavez and this doesn't take into account the shady things he's done in his past in entertainment. He was ran out of there for a reason and it's looking like it might happen again in boxing with a lot of different people coming at him.

That has nothing to do with PBC at all. It hasn't been good anyway, the only good fight was the Thurman card and that was it. Not every card is going to be that obviously, but not every card can't be that either and that's what it's been. That also has nothing to do with wanting to fail or succeed it's just the reality of the situation.

[mathed]

Yeah , but u gotta admire the guy . Every man has testicles which produce testosterone , and as long as men have testosterone , they will attempt a takeover of their respective field . Lets stop hating a MAN for being a MAN . And lets definitely stop hating a MAN for excelling past his contemporaries . And lastly , lets DEFINITELY stop this moral high ground nonsense about Haymon breaking laws and not following the rules , as NO ONE DOES IN THIS DAMN BUSINESS !

The point is everyone has the right to do what they feel is acceptable. The business he is in has a shady past to begin with and the people or organizations that have persevered did so by making friends and eliminating enemies. In any industry or organizational structure, not just boxing, the truly smart people who want to advance make friends. You befriend everyone you can and become a benefit to them in some way, you don't take from them and try to shove them in the dirt.

I mean you can feel free to do that but don't be mad when you find yourself on the other side of the line looking at the rest of the guys just twitching to take you down. It'll start with closed door talks and then when the animosity grows beyond control it will just become an outright public attack. If you piss off enough people and hurt the structure of the organization, you will soon not be part of the organization, that is just fundamental sociology.

[bigdunny1]

What promoter won't he work with top rank? That's not haymon problem Garcia haven't defended his titles he should of been stripped everything becomes haymon fault what about the organizations belts mean nothing now a days why you think so many fighters take step aside money all the time

He refuses to work with golden boy and roc nation as well as Kath duva. forced his fighters to vacate belts rather then take career paydays from Roc. Kovelev was going to fight stevenson until he hired Haymon. That's 4 major promoters he won't work with.

[mathed]

They would have to have proof for it to hold up in court not hearsay and his fighters he advise is some of highest paid boxers it's just going be hard for them to win lawsuit but it's going stop him from making it a league like he wanted to so still a win for plaintiffs in suit that's why they mentioned rumblings and rumors that he making his own belt for pbc series that's they goal to stop that from happening

LOL...man, the fact that his boxers (some of them at least) don't have promotional contracts with anyone else besides Hymen and he is also their manager is proof. I am sensing that this fact is not settling in or something. Just being honest, not even trying to say one way or the other but based on the criteria of what defines the Ali Act, it sounds like the proof is already there based solely on the fact that these guys don't have promo contracts with anyone else.

[SchoolTheseCats]

He refuses to work with golden boy and roc nation as well as Kath duva. forced his fighters to vacate belts rather then take career paydays from Roc. Kovelev was going to fight stevenson until he hired Haymon. That's 4 major promoters he won't work with.

Duva not a major promoter she has Krusher keeping her company floating that's it and they was willing to work together just couple weeks ago but she pulled out of purse bid and only wants Stevenson vs kov fight to happen on HBO because she don't wanna mess up her ties with them roc nation just got into boxing and only match that they was going do was quillen vs korbov fight but quillen pulled out to be with family dying uncle and birth of child some people say it was because roc nation won bid golden boy doesn't have nobody on they roster to warrant a fight with besides canelo and Lemieux and he also ran back to HBO that pretty much banned haymon fighters so again don't try and put all the blame on haymon when all the other promoters are also throwing monkey wrenches in making fights haymon no saint but neither is them other companies

[Scipio2009]

Wearing the belt and holding it high above your head are two different things. In fact I would not be surprised if the WBC told PBC that if they do not allow the fighter to wear the title, the fight will not be sanctioned. There was no celebration at all when Jack won his belt.

Compare that to the Wlad fight on HBO where after the fight his entourage was in the ring with all his titles, draping them over his shoulders and holding them high and proud. THAT was a winning celebration. Not the lackluster PBC affairs where it looks like some grade school sport where everyone is a winner at the end so not to hurt anyone's sensitive feelings.

Haymon Boxing is presenting boxing differently from how things are presented on HBO/Showtime; putting the fighters before everything (presentation-wise, they made the obvious change of having the fighter comes out with his chief second and a cutman, a la Fight Night boxing video game series).

You seem to disagree with how Haymon wants to present boxing, which is fine (I personally preferred how PrideFC presented MMA to how UFC presented MMA, and I was far more a fan of how WCW presented pro wrestling to how WWF presented pro wrestling).

To act as if the way HBO presents boxing is the only way that boxing should ever be presented is silly.

sidenote: take the hypothetical Stevenson vs Kovalv fight. In my own mind, 20,000 fans amped for a fight with two crowds of folks in the ring has a far les focused or intimate feel than having 20,000 fans amped for seeing the two best fighters in the division, standing toe-to-toe, mano y mano, in the ring.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Yup and before that Manny fought Bradley. Haymon fighters face mismatch after mismatch. When is the last time Danny Garcia defended his title? How many bum fights in a row has Broner fought. Khan ain't had a legit fight in 2 years. Ill take 2 alltime greats in Manny vs Marquez 10 times before crap like Garcia vs Salka. Arum ain't perfect but he doesn't pull the blatant crap Haymon does and again he will work with rival promoters something Haymon won't do. And he won't even put his best fighters in the ring together.

Firstly , Haymon can't force any fighter to face anyone . He recommends , but if a fighter cowers , then it is what it is . Secondly , I don't see Haymon as a sacred cow who's beyond reproach as I do have my criticisms for him as well . I do agree with u that Haymon has probably allowed soft ass Garcia to somewhat protect/indemnify himself, but has found himself in over his head regardless his last 3 fights . His 0 definitely needs to go , and trust his time is coming , as there is no where else to run . And why would anyone expect Haymon or any other promoter to just line up ALL the top guys in their stable and just have fight off ASAP . U gotta at least give time for these Marquee matchups to occur . Arum really didnt have a choice but to do that because he only had about 4 notable fighters . So he had to square them off or else u get Manny/Algeri . U mention Broner , but Broner BEGGED Maidana to fight him again but Maidana declined and everyone wants to see that match again