Does Pacquiao have an inside game?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #61
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    Pacquiao is no Amir Khan, it's not that bad but he doesn't have an inside game worth noting at all so in short I'll say no. Even when the opportunity was there to fight up close, even against light hitters, he would look for the ref or go into that defensive shell. When Katsidis and Diaz, who are no where near the level of Pacquiao, can have the kind of success they did pushing Marquez back; working on the inside, that's really shows Pacquiao's inability to fight up close. It's not exactly high level stuff Diaz or Katsidis were displaying against Marquez either.
    chasing someone down and pinning them to the ropes is another story and has nothing to do with being able to fight when inside

    "the oppurtunity to fight inside against light hitters, he looked to the ref", im guessing you're talking about the bradley fights, which have alot more inside fighting moments than looking at the ref moments as bradley is left to wail away, and in both fights i believe it only happened once

    even mayweather who some people consider the best inside fighter today, has alot of moments like that and will often choose not to fight inside

    he may not be great at it, but to say he has no game inside, is just false
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 04-29-2015, 01:06 PM.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #62
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      chasing someone down and pinning them to the ropes is another story and has nothing to do with being able to fight when inside

      "the oppurtunity to fight inside against light hitters, he looked to the ref", im guessing you're talking about the bradley fights, which have alot more inside fighting moments than looking at the ref moments as bradley is left to wail away, and in both fights i believe it only happened once

      even mayweather who some people consider the best inside fighter today, has alot of moments like that and will often choose not to fight inside
      If you stay on top of your opponent whilst doing the bold, that's a form of infighting, anything from close quarters is infighting. This is why people get confused when some say Pacquiao can't fight going backwards, to some degree he can and in some cases he can't. If one chases Pacquiao down and allows him to maintain his distance Pacquiao will operate pretty well on the backfoot. Now if one is fast enough to smother him while pushing him back, Morales I and Bradley to some degree, you see more of his inability to operate well off the backfoot/ inside.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
        If you stay on top of your opponent whilst doing the bold, that's a form of infighting, anything from close quarters is infighting. This is why people get confused when some say Pacquiao can't fight going backwards, to some degree he can and in some cases he can't. If one chases Pacquiao down and allows him to maintain his distance Pacquiao will operate pretty well on the backfoot. Now if one is fast enough to smother him while pushing him back, Morales I and Bradley to some degree, you see more of his inability to operate well off the backfoot/ inside.
        if you wrap an arm around him sure, but not everyone is looking to fight inside and it doesn't mean you can't fight inside when someone does that arm wrap on you and puts you on the inside

        the fighting backwards im not following, you've explained it before in other topics and im not getting it, if someone is fast enough to close the distance usually a game inside ensues where either punches or fienting is involved before pacquiao slips out at an angle to reset things, it doesn't get much better than that in my opinion because it's quick and he's not there for long
        Last edited by SplitSecond; 04-29-2015, 01:45 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          if you wrap an arm around him sure, but not everyone is looking to fight inside and it doesn't mean you can't fight inside when someone does that arm wrap on you and puts you on the inside

          the fighting backwards im not following, you've explained it before in other topics and im not getting it, if someone is fast enough to close the distance usually a game inside ensues where either punches or fienting is involved before pacquiao slips out at an angle to reset things, it doesn't get much better than that in my opinion because it's quick and he's not there for long
          I gave you two examples where that hasn't always been the case, Morales I and Bradley I and II (In many instances). That's distinctively different from fighting off the backfoot against Margarito and Rios who don't close the gap very well at all, and even then aren't fast to begin with. To understand what I'm saying though, you have to understand that fighting off the backfoot also coincides with infighting.

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            #65
            Does look blankly at the ref count? Looking away from Floyd is always a terrible idea as well though.

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              #66
              Originally posted by SplitSecond
              if you wrap an arm around him sure, but not everyone is looking to fight inside and it doesn't mean you can't fight inside when someone does that arm wrap on you and puts you on the inside

              the fighting backwards im not following, you've explained it before in other topics and im not getting it, if someone is fast enough to close the distance usually a game inside ensues where either punches or fienting is involved before pacquiao slips out at an angle to reset things, it doesn't get much better than that in my opinion because it's quick and he's not there for long
              Tell the truth u really think pac have a chance?

              he got ktfo by marquez who got mollywhopped by floyd

              watch this video bra pac hasnt got a chance in hell



              floyd back up fighter who outweigh him 15 pound you think he wont stomp the midget?

              pac cant avoid right hand and floyd is the best most acurate in the buisness.

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                #67
                Originally posted by SwagOnPoint
                Tell the truth u really think pac have a chance?

                he got ktfo by marquez who got mollywhopped by floyd

                watch this video bra pac hasnt got a chance in hell



                floyd back up fighter who outweigh him 15 pound you think he wont stomp the midget?

                pac cant avoid right hand and floyd is the best most acurate in the buisness.
                "Pac can't avoid the right hand."

                How does Floyd do with a left hand?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                  "Pac can't avoid the right hand."

                  How does Floyd do with a left hand?
                  he beat every southpaw he have faced

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                    #69
                    Pac don't need an inside game.

                    He's better hopping in and out than fighting on the inside
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SwagOnPoint
                      he beat every southpaw he have faced
                      Fair enough, you can use that answer about anything related to Mayweather and boxing "He beat every (insert question asked here.)" But let's take it a step further, what punches does Floyd get hit with the most? Jabs from conventional boxers (left hand) and straight lefts from Southpaws.

                      Right?

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