Does Pacquiao have an inside game?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #81
    Originally posted by Hype job
    It's utterly ridiculous when they say he can't fight backing up lol, they keep going back to the first morales fight.

    They forget Manny's destructive reign was when opponents came right at him

    Can't fight going back yo!


    I do agree he can't defend an uppercut on the inside though 12tribes lol
    damn, that's a greaf gif

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      #82
      Originally posted by ELPacman
      It's not that he doesn't have a part of his game. It's that why would he want to do something that isn't a strength of his game? He prefers to pepper you with bombs mid range or come in and blitz you and get out before you can return fire.

      Inside fighting isn't something you need to survive in boxing if you don't need to engage it at all. Pac rather make you pay for trying to get inside on him and that keeps opponents away from him if possible. To me, that is a better gameplan than allowing a fighter to get close to you and whack away at your body and land uppercuts.

      Pacquiao has a method to his madness.
      The bold red is hilarious to see typed. This is not directed at you cause I don't follow people posts to remember what they said in the past.

      Funny you would type that but so many on here don't understand this is why Floyd doesn't fight toe to toe because its not his strength. Yet I bet these same people understand and agree fully with what you just typed in regards to Manny not fighting on the inside.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
        Pacquiao is no Amir Khan, it's not that bad but he doesn't have an inside game worth noting at all so in short I'll say no. Even when the opportunity was there to fight up close, even against light hitters, he would look for the ref or go into that defensive shell. When Katsidis and Diaz, who are no where near the level of Pacquiao, can have the kind of success they did pushing Marquez back; working on the inside, that's really shows Pacquiao's inability to fight up close. It's not exactly high level stuff Diaz or Katsidis were displaying against Marquez either.
        LOL you make no sense. Pac's style is in and out. Of course he is not going to be better at dudes who fight like katsidis and diaz SMH. Can Rigondeaux fight like katsidis and diaz? Yah don't think so.

        It's all about styles. Pac's an outside fighter.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #84
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          those instances vs morales happened when yes, he didn't know how to fight backing up, i haven't seen them since morales I and few more times in morales II

          i dont know what you're talking about vs bradley, bradley lost every round where he was the aggressor except for the 4th in the rematch, you can only mean the breaks, which every fighter takes, one moment it can be a clinch, and to not spam it the next could be just covering up

          i consider pacquiao the best today at fighting backwards, aslong as he has some fight left in him he'll destroy any fighter trying to take the fight to him, can you name anyone else fighting today that dodge punches while throwing punches of his own in combinations all while on the move? pacquiao is a phenom at fighting on the retreat
          Pacquiao has had the luxury of dismantling those that don't possess a straight right hand or aren't fast enough to take away his mid range distance, this has allowed him to look pretty good on the backfoot. As for Bradley losing every round he was the aggressor in, I'd need to look into that but that sounds hard to believe.

          I don't think I'll be able to name anyone better because Pacquiao has a unique style, it's not as unique anymore given he has slowed down but still unique nonetheless. Only other fighter I can think of is Thurman, isn't as good but it's worth a mention because Thurman's ability to evade punches while pulling out is overlooked. It's the "in combinations" part that made it easier to say Manny.

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            #85
            Originally posted by TRTboy
            LOL you make no sense. Pac's style is in and out. Of course he is not going to be better at dudes who fight like katsidis and diaz SMH. Can Rigondeaux fight like katsidis and diaz? Yah don't think so.

            It's all about styles. Pac's an outside fighter.
            Only thing that doesn't make any sense is your reply, the topic at hand is whether he can fight on the inside or not.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Pacquiao has had the luxury of dismantling those that don't possess a straight right hand or aren't fast enough to take away his mid range distance, this has allowed him to look pretty good on the backfoot. As for Bradley losing every round he was the aggressor in, I'd need to look into that but that sounds hard to believe.

              I don't think I'll be able to name anyone better because Pacquiao has a unique style, it's not as unique anymore given he has slowed down but still unique nonetheless. Only other fighter I can think of is Thurman, isn't as good but it's worth a mention because Thurman's ability to evade punches while pulling out is overlooked. It's the "in combinations" part that made it easier to say Manny.
              U could argue the same for Mayweather, albeit a left hand which is what makes the fight intriguing.

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              • tredh
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                #87
                Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                Fair enough, you can use that answer about anything related to Mayweather and boxing "He beat every (insert question asked here.)" But let's take it a step further, what punches does Floyd get hit with the most? Jabs from conventional boxers (left hand) and straight lefts from Southpaws.

                Right?

                I'm willing to guess Floyd would rather take a few jabs from a conventional fighter and avoid a high majority of their power punches. Would you agree?

                Honestly not sure what he gets hit with the most vs a southpaw.

                So I don't think its as simple as Floyd can't avoid the left hand like Mosley said. Which I see people are now trying to run with but nobody ever said it before they heard it from Mosley.

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                  #88
                  Manny does not want to hook with Floyd at all, Floyd's hooks is going to be a problem anyway but that is the hammer after the straight right. Being in range of Mayweather's hook is a big danger zone for Manny.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    I'm willing to guess Floyd would rather take a few jabs from a conventional fighter and avoid a high majority of their power punches. Would you agree?

                    Honestly not sure what he gets hit with the most vs a southpaw.

                    So I don't think its as simple as Floyd can't avoid the left hand like Mosley said. Which I see people are now trying to run with but nobody ever said it before they heard it from Mosley.
                    I came up with my data from De La Hoya, he said Floyd can't defend the jab and they showed evidence to support that in the video. And the straight left from Southpaw was also another video I seen on YouTube with supporting evidence. I have no knowledge of what Mosely said, or when he said it. But if he's saying it, and I'm reporting it from two other sources, then there must be something to it.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                      Pacquiao has had the luxury of dismantling those that don't possess a straight right hand or aren't fast enough to take away his mid range distance, this has allowed him to look pretty good on the backfoot. As for Bradley losing every round he was the aggressor in, I'd need to look into that but that sounds hard to believe.

                      I don't think I'll be able to name anyone better because Pacquiao has a unique style, it's not as unique anymore given he has slowed down but still unique nonetheless. Only other fighter I can think of is Thurman, isn't as good but it's worth a mention because Thurman's ability to evade punches while pulling out is overlooked. It's the "in combinations" part that made it easier to say Manny.
                      that's also who popped up in my mind when i asked the question, i agree with everything in the second paragraph

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