Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mayweather Didn't Want This, He Was Forced

[Sugar Adam Ali]

God some " fans " are clueless.

The CEO of HBO was not required at the negotiating table, because he would have been no assistance whatsoever in removing the roadbloack that was Bob Arum.

It took a player like Moonves to ride over Arums bull****.

The again, I guess you have already decided to forget about the roadblocks that Arum tried during this very negotiation?

Lmao. Your clueless...


So how does moonves have any sway on what Bob arum does,,,

Does arum work or have contracts with showtime/CBS...

Moonves literally has absolute zero control or influence on top rank or Bob arum..

Lmao,, what was moonves threatening to arum if he didn't comply? Does Moonves have one of arum fighters signed to the most lucrative deal in boxing? Does moonves CBS/showtime give top rank any fight dates...

How did moonves ride over a guy he has no control of amd isn't a boss to...

Lmao, that's like the CEO of Apple coming down hard on an employee of Microsoft..

Only the dudes that own time warner/HBO could have any influence over arum as they are the ones that give him fight dates, money, and fighter contracts...


Explain to me again how moonves can control arum???


If arum was the problem, it would be the time warner CEO getting involved and keeping him in line... Not some guy that has no associate with hbo or top rank

Moonves was there to make sure floyd and showtime side got the deal done...


So again, tell me how moonves has any say or influence over what arum does?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The only guy that Arum could not look down on, talk down to, or manipulate.......... was Les Moonves. Hoya/Haymon/Ellerbe were not going to be able to deal with Arum effectively. They had tried that already.

The CEO of my company will involve himself, if a particularly lucrative/important issue needs priority.

I'm not surprised at all to hear of Moonves' involvement, even back in 2009 they required Judge Daniel Weinstein as official mediator..... and since then Arum has alienated himself even more with his lies and manipulations.

Bob arum works for hbo/time warner

Floyd works for showtime/CBS

Les moonves has control of one of those companies.

Basically shows that one side couldn't or wouldnt figure it out and needed the big boys to help/force this fight..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Wasn't arum that first said months and months ago that he was talking to les moonves and basically going over the head of Espinoza and all the floyd fanboys said arum was full of ***** and lying...

Now months and months later, it's public knowledge that moonves was involved in the deal, arum was telling the truth for once, and all the floyd fanboys instead of acknowledging that arum was truthful, are now claiming that moonves was needed because of arum, yet said arum was a liar months ago...

These dudes twisting in the wind,,,, Reminds me of the catchweight with canelo, and these floyd fanboys was doing 180 reversals in every post... Lmao

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Wasn't arum that first said months and months ago that he was talking to les moonves and basically going over the head of Espinoza and all the floyd fanboys said arum was full of ***** and lying...

Now months and months later, it's public knowledge that moonves was involved in the deal, arum was telling the truth for once, and all the floyd fanboys instead of acknowledging that arum was truthful, are now claiming that moonves was needed because of arum, yet said arum was a liar months ago...

These dudes twisting in the wind,,,, Reminds me of the catchweight with canelo, and these floyd fanboys was doing 180 reversals in every post... Lmao

You're actually proving our point. But your posts are so all over the place, it's honestly giving me a headache.

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Bob arum works for hbo/time warner

Floyd works for showtime/CBS

Les moonves has control of one of those companies.

Basically shows that one side couldn't or wouldnt figure it out and needed the big boys to help/force this fight..

No genius. It shows that one side was quite committed to making it happen.

I'm amazed how you totally don't get when we say that bringing Moonves in was to curb Arum. I'll explain in a second but I have to ask...how old are you? I don't wanna disrespect an old man but my God!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You're actually proving our point. But your posts are so all over the place, it's honestly giving me a headache.

Simply put...... 3 facts


If Bob arum didn't want the fight, there was absolutely nothing moonves could do about it... Top rank has no ties to showtime/CBS


If floyd didn't want the fight, moonves in control of showtime/CBS does have the power to make floyd accept since he signs Floyd's checks and gives airtime to haymon fighters


Now moonves got involved and suddenly the fight gets made...


I will let those 3 tidbits speak for themselves

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Simply put...... 3 facts


If Bob arum didn't want the fight, there was absolutely nothing moonves could do about it... Top rank has no ties to showtime/CBS


If floyd didn't want the fight, moonves in control of showtime/CBS does have the power to make floyd accept since he signs Floyd's checks and gives airtime to haymon fighters


Now moonves got involved and suddenly the fight gets made...


I will let those 3 tidbits speak for themselves

1. Arum can back out. But it's a lot different telling the media that Floyd or Espinoza or Haymon ducked out as opposed to saying yeah the CEO of the network really doesn't want the fight.

2. Floyd can retire. Or he can just not fight.

3. I know, thank God.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No genius. It shows that one side was quite committed to making it happen.

I'm amazed how you totally don't get when we say that bringing Moonves in was to curb Arum. I'll explain in a second but I have to ask...how old are you? I don't wanna disrespect an old man but my God!

Simply put...... 3 facts


If Bob arum didn't want the fight, there was absolutely nothing moonves could do about it... Top rank has no ties to showtime/CBS


If floyd didn't want the fight, moonves in control of showtime/CBS does have the power to make floyd accept since he signs Floyd's checks and gives airtime to haymon fighters


Now moonves got involved and suddenly the fight gets made...


I will let those 3 tidbits speak for themselves

moonves has no control over arum....

[Sugar Adam Ali]

1. Arum can back out. But it's a lot different telling the media that Floyd or Espinoza or Haymon ducked out as opposed to saying yeah the CEO of the network really doesn't want the fight.

2. Floyd can retire. Or he can just not fight.

3. I know, thank God.

Number 1 makes no sense.. It's obvious the CEO wanted the fight, but also obvious that people underneath him didn't, and that's why he has to play boss daddy and get hands on..

Hbo/Arum-Espinoza/showtime.. No deal

Espinoza even claimed in an article on boxing scene that moonves wasn't involved

Hbo/arum-moonves/CBS and miracously the fight gets made


If the people underneath moonves was all for the fight happening his presence wouldn't be required and it would have been the time warner CEO coming down to keep Bob arum in check..

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Number 1 makes no sense.. It's obvious the CEO wanted the fight, but also obvious that people underneath him didn't, and that's why he has to play boss daddy and get hands on..

Hbo/Arum-Espinoza/showtime.. No deal

Espinoza even claimed in an article on boxing scene that moonves wasn't involved

Hbo/arum-moonves/CBS and miracously the fight gets made


If the people underneath moonves was all for the fight happening his presence wouldn't be required and it would have been the time warner CEO coming down to keep Bob arum in check..

Yeah...the people underneath him didn't want him. They just kept making offers to Manny (not the media) for kicks.