Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mayweather Didn't Want This, He Was Forced

[IMDAZED]

Difference is those fights and pretty much every floyd fight ever, a head CEO like les moonves was never needed to bring floyd to the table.. Why was moonves needed if floyd wasn't needing a nudge to get to the table.. Even for tyson-lennox it didn't need the absolute top guy to come down and handle the deal, all of it was done by executives.. Factoring that in, it's pretty clear floyd wasn't really looking for this fight.

Half of your post is fantasy.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

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Thought Oscar gets a percentage of mannys purse ? From some contract **** up awhile back ?

He did for awhile but I think that has expired... I think it was for 5 years or so many fights... Manny has eclipsed both requirements by now..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Half of your post is fantasy.

What is fantasy?

[IMDAZED]

What is fantasy?

You invented Moonves needing to bring Floyd to the table. Moonves was brought in as buffer between the two sides. I wonder what got into your mind to invent that twisted logic.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You invented Moonves needing to bring Floyd to the table. Moonves was brought in as buffer between the two sides. I wonder what got into your mind to invent that twisted logic.

Lmao..... Why didn't the time warner CEO that owns hbo not be needed for manny..
Les moonves is so much higher up the food chain...

Showtime and hbo boxing executives
Then showtime/hbo sports division executives
Then showtime/hbo Vice Presidents
Then showtime/hbo CEOs... This is the highest it should go

But it went past that to the levels of
CBS Vice President of showtime division
CBS executive management
Literally the top guy CEO les moonves

Notice how no one from hbo' parent company of time warner had to included.. If it was manny and arum being the problem it would have been their boss coming down, not the other way around..


The top dog isn't going to get involved unless there is a problem and a reason to be there...

[IMDAZED]

Lmao..... Why didn't the time warner CEO that owns hbo not be needed for manny..
Les moonves is so much higher up the food chain...

Showtime and hbo boxing executives
Then showtime/hbo sports division executives
Then showtime/hbo Vice Presidents
Then showtime/hbo CEOs... This is the highest it should go

But it went past that to the levels of
CBS Vice President of showtime division
CBS executive management
Literally the top guy CEO les moonves

Notice how no one from hbo' parent company of time warner had to included.. If it was manny and arum being the problem it would have been their boss coming down, not the other way around..


The top dog isn't going to get involved unless there is a problem and a reason to be there...

Right. And he's explained what the problem is many times. Yet you decided to invent a new reason. Why did you choose to do that?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Right. And he's explained what the problem is many times. Yet you decided to invent a new reason. Why did you choose to do that?

What was the problem?

[SeekDaGreat]

You invented Moonves needing to bring Floyd to the table. Moonves was brought in as buffer between the two sides. I wonder what got into your mind to invent that twisted logic.

Lmfao. Sometimes you're funny. Sometimes.

[IMDAZED]

What was the problem?

The problem was that both sides had tried unsuccessfully to make the fight before without it happening. Moonves stepped in to act as a buffer. If anything, it appears he was more concerned about the other sides intentions.

According to Roach, Moonves expressed hesitation about Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, who put one Pacquiao fight on Showtime during a leadership change at HBO, but then turned his back on Showtime with Moonves believing two more fights were coming.

“You’re going to have to deal with Bob,” Roach told Moonves. “Manny just signed a new contract with him.”

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The problem was that both sides had tried unsuccessfully to make the fight before without it happening. Moonves stepped in to act as a buffer. If anything, it appears he was more concerned about the other sides intentions.

According to Roach, Moonves expressed hesitation about Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, who put one Pacquiao fight on Showtime during a leadership change at HBO, but then turned his back on Showtime with Moonves believing two more fights were coming.

“You’re going to have to deal with Bob,” Roach told Moonves. “Manny just signed a new contract with him.”

That qoute doesn't prove anything either way.. That's just rehashing that arum pimped showtime for the manny-mosely fight, has no bearing on the actual negotioations.

There was no reason for moonves to be there except to get floyd to agree. And since his presence was obviously required, It seems he was needed on the CBS side to get it done.. His old feelings for arum weren't the cause for his presence being needed..
Why was his presence needed???
I'm sure Espinoza could have handled it with hbo execs.. At the very most the CEOs of hbo and showtime...