Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mayweather Didn't Want This, He Was Forced

[IMDAZED]

So you say arum didn't want the fight, yet he is the one working it out with moonves... Makes no sense...

Moonves has no control over top rank, so arum could tell him to shove it if arum didn't want the fight... Espinoza and haymon cannot tell moonves to shove it

No, I asked you when Arum initiated an offer. I'm still waiting.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

If Floyd or Haymon doesn't want the fight to happen it doesn't get made regardless of who ask for it. Haymon could have put Floyd on NBC and drew 10-11 mil viewers for ratings. Moonves was a positive IMO because I just don't see Arum and Haymon making this fight on their own.

I would love to see what rating floyd would bring, if he was on network TV...
The ratings would be astronomical, dare I say on par with nfl

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No, I asked you when Arum initiated an offer. I'm still waiting.

C'mon dude....

Arum and manny had no leverage, and was the B-side recently... Like floyd was just gonna allow them to make offers and dictate the negotiations especially after manny got ko6 and dropping PPv numbers.. That would be a waste of time and everyone including yourself should realize that..

Roach went over espinoza's head and got to moonves...

What could moonves do that Espinoza couldn't, except actually negotiate in good faith with arum... Espinoza had years to put this fight together if they wanted it..
I will say 09-12 was manny's fault, especially backing out due to drug testing but for the last 2-3 years, manny has been desperate for the payday and floyd has basically had no interest in it...

[dc3383]

I would love to see what rating floyd would bring, if he was on network TV...
The ratings would be astronomical, dare I say on par with nfl

I think it got to a part when besides barely got over there differences to make a lot money for one fight. A rematch isn't happening. I'm glad Moonves was the guy who made this realize it.

[IMDAZED]

C'mon dude....

Arum and manny had no leverage, and was the B-side recently... Like floyd was just gonna allow them to make offers and dictate the negotiations especially after manny got ko6 and dropping PPv numbers.. That would be a waste of time and everyone including yourself should realize that..

Roach went over espinoza's head and got to moonves...

What could moonves do that Espinoza couldn't, except actually negotiate in good faith with arum... Espinoza had years to put this fight together if they wanted it..
I will say 09-12 was manny's fault, especially backing out due to drug testing but for the last 2-3 years, manny has been desperate for the payday and floyd has basically had no interest in it...

Having no leverage is even more of a reason to reach out. People call out the top dog all the time. That's how it's supposed to be.

So your answer is no.

Thank you.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I think it got to a part when besides barely got over there differences to make a lot money for one fight. A rematch isn't happening. I'm glad Moonves was the guy who made this realize it.

I think there will be a rematch.,,, Too much money, especially if first fight is remotely close...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Having no leverage is even more of a reason to reach out. People call out the top dog all the time. That's how it's supposed to be.

So your answer is no.

Thank you.

Lmao arum reached out plenty of times to make fight... Remember the countdown clock in 2010. Lol


Moonves was there to make sure floyd was delivered, he wasn't there for manny's sake...

Anyways... This topic is boring me... You can have the last word in defending floyd and claiming moonves was there to bring fighter/promoter he doesn't comtrol in line...

[aboutfkntime]

Bob arum works for hbo/time warner

Floyd works for showtime/CBS

Les moonves has control of one of those companies.

Basically shows that one side couldn't or wouldnt figure it out and needed the big boys to help/force this fight..

1) Bob Arum does not work for HBO

2) Mayweather does not work for Shotime

Both of those statements are 100% WRONG !

Moonves involvement (with the devil - his words - did you forget that?) was essential because Arum has blatantly lied to/about EVERYONE else.

If Arum tried the same type of stunts with Moonves that worked on YOU previously (cuts/stadiums/investors/Joe Jackson/Arum forgetting who to call/etc) Moonves could decimate the little credibility that Arum has left, which would have exposed Arum as the roadblock since 2009.

Bob got backed into a corner, as indicated by his earlier comments confirming that he was not interested in making Pacquiao/Mayweather.

[aboutfkntime]

1. Arum can back out. But it's a lot different telling the media that Floyd or Espinoza or Haymon ducked out as opposed to saying yeah the CEO of the network really doesn't want the fight.

2. Floyd can retire. Or he can just not fight.

3. I know, thank God.

Exactly !

Arum cannot lie about Moonves, like he lied about Schaeffer/Ellerbe/Haymon/Mayweather..... because it would decimate the little credibility he has left and it would expose him as the roadblock.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

1) Bob Arum does not work for HBO

2) Mayweather does not work for Shotime

Both of those statements are 100% WRONG !

Moonves involvement (with the devil - his words - did you forget that?) was essential because Arum has blatantly lied to/about EVERYONE else.

If Arum tried the same type of stunts with Moonves that worked on YOU previously (cuts/stadiums/investors/Joe Jackson/Arum forgetting who to call/etc) Moonves could decimate the little credibility that Arum has left, which would have exposed Arum as the roadblock since 2009.

Bob got backed into a corner, as indicated by his earlier comments confirming that he was not interested in making Pacquiao/Mayweather.

Lmao....


Who bankrolls arum's TV cards and pays fees to him.....HBO

Floyd doesn't work for showtime.... Lmao... Your a complete idiot... It's like saying Tom Brady doesn't work for the patriots...

if they sign your checks, then you work for them...

If you had ever gotten a paycheck in your life you would know this...