How would Ali fare in todays HW division?

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I think he would be a contender but not get past Wlad, Pov, Haye. Joe Frazier was a crude unathletic man and took years off Ali's life. Skilled boxers with way more power would outclass him.

But I voted not in the top 10 because I meet so many nerds who have never even watched a single Ali fight but wear tshirts with his face on them. I want to bash them up.

[MrRolltide91]

Ali ducked Briggs

[Weltschmerz]

I don't understand how anyone can see the struggles Wlad had with two fairly talented movers in Haye and Jennings and think he doesn't get his ass kicked by Muhammad Ali.

He beat Haye and Jennings convincingly.

[New England]

He wouldn't get past Bryant Jennings with his modern day training and nutrition and etc.

Too much chin, too much modern.

modern nutrition at HW:







evolution

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modern nutrition at HW:





evolution

Jennings has a better physique than Ali did as a true heavyweight (190 lbs doesn't count.. By 230 Ali was getting fat) much less ali's disgusting exercise allergic opponents like buster mathis and joe frazier.

Better focus on the alleged "skill gap". The every modern hw is Chris Arreola angle is spent. Historical heavies had one thing going for them... They were American.

Even low quality barroom/caveman-style fighters like Frazier who lost athletics tournaments to a race car driver and couldn't run 100 yards without having an asthma attack despite being an average sized guy got enough media exposure to seem like epic wins in that claustrophobic era.

That pathetic low garbage standard was a "clash of the titans" when network TV and the mob were on the same page and the world outside of the US/UK was just starting to take interest.

[Djanxx]

Fury would put him to sleep.

[New England]

Jennings has a better physique than Ali did as a true heavyweight (190 lbs doesn't count.. By 230 Ali was getting fat) much less ali's disgusting exercise allergic opponents like buster mathis and joe frazier.

Better focus on the alleged "skill gap". The every modern hw is Chris Arreola angle is spent. Historical heavies had one thing going for them... They were American.

Even low quality barroom/caveman-style fighters like Frazier who lost athletics tournaments to a race car driver and couldn't run 100 yards without having an asthma attack despite being an average sized guy got enough media exposure to seem like epic wins in that claustrophobic era.

That pathetic low garbage standard was a "clash of the titans" when network TV and the mob were on the same page and the world outside of the US/UK was just starting to take interest.

joe frazier had bad stamina?

is that what you're trying to tell me?

[JasonBoxing]

Conveniently fail to mention Wlad is clearly past prime.

Wlad is too big for Ali get over the emotion and use logic, Ali would put up a good fight but Wlad is too strong.

Not to mention how easily he would dominate Fraizer and Foreman, Vitali vs Fraizer would be an exact copy of Vitali vs Chisora (Chisora and Fraizer are very similar in talent and style)

You made a lot of racists posts. Racist people on the Internet are usually not that successful in life.


I doubt you drive a nice car or have lots of money. Can you imagine someone with a nice salary and job writing stuff like :blacks be losing great black hope!

I like all fighters regardless of skin color. Stop with the racism lol.


Also is Prime Lewis big enough for Wlad? Or Lewis will lose too because you know..he's black.

[kafkod]

why does everyone act like povetkin is so good, hes just a basic boxer puncher. Ali would dance around him and hit him with the jab scoring points then would throw some flurries also if he had too. Easy work for Ali

he's european [white.]

And he can't be good as well?

Povetkin IS good, but Ali was great, maybe the greatest heavyweight ever.

(Apart from Tyson Fury, of course.)

Ali would box Povetkin's head off all night long, Wlad and Wilder's too.

[kafkod]

Ali would have modern day training and nutrition

That's something few people take into account when they compare fighters of different eras.

If Ali was boxing today he would have been born and raised in the 1980's or 90's, not the early 1940's. So he would have had better nutrition since childhood, not just while training.

People, on average are bigger now than their parents and grandparents, because of better nutrition and higher calorie intake while growing.

Ali was a big heavyweight for his day. Take that into account and imagine him maybe 6.4 or 6.5, instead of 6.3, and weighing in at around 235/40 lbs.

He'd be a little slower, yes, but stronger, and the talent that made him such a great boxer would still be there.