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  • Strategic1
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    #71
    Originally posted by TheWinners
    You're pathetic. Face it moron. The guy admitted it himself. He got caught with a perfect counter right hand. Are you going to use this same excuse if Mayweather knocks out Pacquiao? Newsflash idiot, Pacquiao isn't as good as you all make him. He's a flash fighter. Flash fighters get their ass kicked vs boxers. Pacaquiao thinks he's a better fighter because he couldn't finish 2 140 lb fighters fighting at WW for the first time in their careers? And him avenging the loss to Bradley? I give him credit for that fight. That was the only challenge he faced in his last 3 fights after the Marquez KO. He's lying to himself. He was sloppy in the Algeri fight. That guy is going to get slaughtered by Mayweather. His defense is too sloppy. Question everyone, did Pacquiao fight Algeri at a catchweight?
    'pathetic... moron...idiot...' You used most of your limited vocabulary. No need to respond to this nonsense.

    But I will say,...strength training by JMM legal or not was the difference in the fight. Heredia himself said they focused on JMM's power. So legal or not, strength training was the difference. I just happen to believe JMM was on PED's.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #72
      it's relative, floyd will have to fight pacquiao like a prime version of himself to beat this old pacquiao

      prime for prime pacquiao beats him, just like he'll beat him now as both are in their old age

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      • Strategic1
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        #73
        His peak was still between 2009-2011, but he has evolved and has become more craftier. He mixes up his punches and plans his attacks a bit more and guards against big counters by watching his position. He still gets hit sometimes. But for the most part, he avoids the big ones.

        He's not a better 'fighter', he's just playing chess more in the ring. But playing chess with Floyd won't be effective by itself. He needs to bring that same "fight" he brought in his prime while still fighting smart.

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        • Evol
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          #74
          i dont know why the floyd fans is getting all worked up over a comment from manny?? if u guys feel pac hasnt improve one bit then thats fine, floyd will exposed him right? so why are u guys so pissed off?

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          • ELPacman
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            #75
            I'm not sure Pacquiao is a better fighter since the Marquez loss. If anything he's a more cautious fighter which isn't what Pacquiao ever was in the past. His relentless and reckless is what made him who he was.

            His best wins generally came when he was balls to the walls although he has had great moments when he picked his opponents apart in controlled aggression (Barrera, Oscar, Margarito).

            If Pacquiao decides to try to box with Jr. at a very slow and measured pace, I can't see him winning at all. For a moment I believed Pac could pick Jr. apart the way he did Oscar but Oscar was a lot easier to hit than Jr. ever will be.

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            • Xi_
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              #76
              He's not a better fighter...... He just hasn't faced anyone as good as a 40 yr old LW Marquez. He was suppose to be a better fight in 2008, 2011 and 2012 but still managed to get his ass kicked in each of those years.

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              • TheWinners
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                #77
                Originally posted by Strategic1
                'pathetic... moron...idiot...' You used most of your limited vocabulary. No need to respond to this nonsense.

                But I will say,...strength training by JMM legal or not was the difference in the fight. Heredia himself said they focused on JMM's power. So legal or not, strength training was the difference. I just happen to believe JMM was on PED's.
                Your comments were just that. Idiotic, pathetic, and moronic. You have no evidence for your accusations other than your boy was KTFO. No failed drug test then or now. No testimony, no nothing. So to even mention PEDs because Marquez defeated Pacquiao is pathetic. It shows that Manny's fans are not in touch with reality. So they have to make an excuse. It's pathetic. The excuses will run out soon.

                If Mayweather wins by KO there's going to be PED accusations with no evidence as well. Only because he beat Pacquiao. I haven't seen Mayweather accused of PEDs often but if he wins this fight by KO then get ready.

                If you want to accuse anyone of PEDs it's your boy. Who wanted specific cutoff dates etc. I don't know how this isn't as obvious as it looks. Right after all the PED accusations and the breakdown of negotiations with Mayweather, no KO's over a long period of time. Even vs smaller guys. Yet beforehand he was stopping bigger guys.

                If you look at Mayweather's comp, he's fought guys who have good chins and haven't been stopped. And they all were bigger than him physically except Guerrero. Who was basically a tuneup fight for Mayweather. Mayweather's lack of KO's isn't because he lacks power. He has power. Not great power, but good enough power to stop a fighter. It's plainly because he's fought bigger tougher guys with good chins.

                Canelo Alvarez, Maidana, and Guerrero also has a good chin. You'd know that for sure if you watched the Berto Guerrero fight or the Thurman Guerrero fight. So don't be surprised or start whining about PED use if Mayweather stops Pacquiao. I think that's what's going to happen.

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                • Evol
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Xi_
                  He's not a better fighter...... He just hasn't faced anyone as good as a 40 yr old LW Marquez. He was suppose to be a better fight in 2008, 2011 and 2012 but still managed to get his ass kicked in each of those years.
                  who did he get his ass kicked by? i believe he won in all those years except 2012 when marquez finally ko him?

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                  • stuff jones
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Xi_
                    He's not a better fighter...... He just hasn't faced anyone as good as a 40 yr old LW Marquez. He was suppose to be a better fight in 2008, 2011 and 2012 but still managed to get his ass kicked in each of those years.
                    Bradley kicked Marquez's ass and Pac kicked his ass, so yeah, you're wrong.

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                    • Strategic1
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by TheWinners
                      Your comments were just that. Idiotic, pathetic, and moronic. You have no evidence for your accusations other than your boy was KTFO. No failed drug test then or now. No testimony, no nothing. So to even mention PEDs because Marquez defeated Pacquiao is pathetic. It shows that Manny's fans are not in touch with reality. So they have to make an excuse. It's pathetic. The excuses will run out soon.
                      Evidence this..blah blah... Too many signs to ignore.
                      - sudden body acne
                      - body transformation, including larger trap muscles
                      - joint pain/knee injury
                      - refusal to do random drug testing after Bradley insisted. Bradley insisted on VADA or USDA. They settled for 'extra' testing by NSAC.
                      - Obviously more power generated by his punches.
                      - Associating with Memo Heredia
                      - Use to drink his own urine
                      - Desperate/Obsessive behaviour (Many steroid/Ped users are those who are at their later stages of their career.)
                      - Moody swings/whining
                      - long layoffs between fights
                      - oily hair/skin, reddish glow (this can be argued)

                      If you drink your own piss and are delusional enough to think it has benefits, you are capable of anything.
                      Last edited by Strategic1; 04-07-2015, 08:32 AM.

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