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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by Xi_
    I've said this to a lot of pacf@gs only to be ignored..... They have no answer. When Floyd beats the living crap out of pacquiao and May 2nd is over you'll see more excuses then ever......book it.
    I get they are upset that Manny lost in an embarrassing fashion. Just admit it.

    Instead, we get anger fueled, ill conceived, illogical theories because JMM passed the same tests they said showed without a doubt Manny was clean.

    That isn't credible.

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    • Sindawg364
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      #102
      Pacquiao has now convinced me to believe he will win the fight, since he's a better fighter after the marquez KO. Not sure why the floyd fans are in uproar. I am now a manny fan.

      I'm going to ignore the lunging and chin up offense I seen against Alegria, Bradley and Marquez. His performance against Rios, is a clear indication of his improvement. I'm also going to ignore the combination pun hes from bradley and marquez that shown manny's inability to take a step back to defend against the pun hes, but to put his high guard up. He's improved his lazy jab, so when bradley, Algeria, and Marquez was landing counter punches has now been orrected. He has convinced me that he will no longer cross his feet, do the splits, or trip over his feet by being more balance. He's now more of a boxer, since he hasn't knocked out anyone, so he's making smarter boxing decisions. Note: I hope Freddie understands that Manny is a better fighter, and don't have to base his strategy on a KO. Manny now does not drop his hands when throwing a pun h. He's more defensive responsible. After fighting the same way his entire career, finally, he has made the hangs to be a complete and better fighter. I mean boxer. He doesn't drop his right shoulder before throwing his left. Glad he did that, because floyd sees that, and would have capitalized on the flaw.

      Really, Really...

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #103
        People ignore a lot of what Marquez and Nacho were saying going into the 3rd fight, people need to go back to it because I don't intend on looking for it. It's video footage of Nacho saying, the fact that Pacquiao has become a more technical fighter makes things easier for us. You would think it was crazy talk at the time because Pacquiao was running through everyone, I myself was expecting Marquez to get run over regardless but in all actuality, it's kind of funny because Nacho was really doing Pacquiao a favor in releasing those statements.

        It's happening again too, I don't know his name but the guy who discusses boxing with Marquez on Golpe a Golpe, he brought up how he believes Pacquiao has improved since the knockout, how he is a more technical fighter and Marquez smiled and told him, that isn't what Pacquiao needs to be against Mayweather.

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        • Strategic1
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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Dude, if you are basing Manny requesting testing for Rios based on JMM 4, ok that is valid given the fight happened after JMM 4. But you argued a fight that took place almost a year after Manny/JMM 4 showed the guilt of JMM in the Manny fight. That's ******ed and you should easily be able to see that.

          The notion that he just woke up to the reality of PED use is preposterous given he refused testing 4 years prior and then argued for 3 years he had agreed to testing even though he didn't have any for his fights.

          The bottom line is if you think JMM's actions indicate use, then the same thing holds for Manny. It would be better if you just came clean and admitted being upset that Manny lost and not wanting to look at the real reasons why he did is why you are doing this.

          I'm ok with judging actions so long as you apply the same standards across the board.
          Whatever... You a floyd fan and I'm a Pac fan.. we will keep going back and forth but i will stop after this.

          I've stated MULTIPLE F3KIN TIMES..PED testing needed to have been done MONTHS before the fight. Testing 4 days before the fight ..really? that won't catch anything. Just isn't realistic.

          If you deny JMM avoiding tests is su****ious in a time where Berto, Peterson, Morales were recently caught,...then that just shows you just are going along with the pro Floyd-JMM...anti-pac agenda you have.

          I've listed the other signs of PED use for JMM. What answers do you have for that? Like I said, too many signs to ignore.

          With Pac, all there is,..is Floyd Sr and JR accusing PAC. And their bewilderment that a former flyweight in PAC beat up Cotto, Hatton and Oscar.

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          • texasboi15
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            #105
            Self-imposed sanctions will not allow the texasboi15 to comment until after May 2 2015.

            The fight is 26 days away.

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            • Spit Dialect
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              #106
              Manny is not the same fighter he was before the Marquez fight, but Floyd isn't the same either.

              In the end, this fight is coming about 5 years too late, but I still think it will be entertaining. Manny has to out work Floyd, but I have a feeling Floyd is going to adapt, and just coast for 12 rounds and a UD.

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              • torosboxing75
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                #107
                Fighter of the decade!

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Strategic1
                  Whatever... You a floyd fan and I'm a Pac fan.. we will keep going back and forth but i will stop after this.

                  I've stated MULTIPLE F3KIN TIMES..PED testing needed to have been done MONTHS before the fight. Testing 4 days before the fight ..really? that won't catch anything. Just isn't realistic.

                  If you deny JMM avoiding tests is su****ious in a time where Berto, Peterson, Morales were recently caught,...then that just shows you just are going along with the pro Floyd-JMM...anti-pac agenda you have.

                  I've listed the other signs of PED use for JMM. What answers do you have for that? Like I said, too many signs to ignore.

                  With Pac, all there is,..is Floyd Sr and JR accusing PAC. And their bewilderment that a former flyweight in PAC beat up Cotto, Hatton and Oscar.
                  I'm not denying avoiding testing is su****ious-I'm saying avoiding testing is su****ious for both JMM and Manny while you are limiting it to just JMM. That has nothing to do with me being a Floyd fan or any agenda I have.

                  I can easily make a list of things-I will not because I am not desperately trying to make Manny look guilty of anything. Your list is paranoia, not fact. You point out Berto and Peterson.

                  I could just as easily point out James Toney tested positive and he trained with Roach, just like Manny. Again, I am not because I am not trying to make Manny guilty, I am simply asking you to see how his actions are just as su****ious.

                  I didn't disagree with your point about 4 days. I asked why didn't Manny have testing in the contract? you gave some ridiculous excuse regarding the "reality of PED use". SO you simply make excuses for any action Manny makes that is su****ious when you don't for JMM.

                  With Manny there is walking away from testing, refusing testing, and not having testing for his fight. If someone sees those actions as indicative of use, how can you possibly disagree with them given what you said about JMM's actions?
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-07-2015, 10:20 AM.

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                  • Strategic1
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    With Manny there is walking away from testing, refusing testing, and not having testing for his fight. If someone sees those actions as indicative of use, how can you possibly disagree with them given what you said about JMM's actions?
                    Pac was a legit A-side at the time, while Floyd had his little retirement. Olympic testing was unheard of at this time. It was about egos more than anything else. As an A-Side, having another fighter dictate terms like this and at the same time make accusations,..was just BS.

                    Eventually, PAC did agree to all these terms, ..and Floyd put a few other roadblocks up.

                    Difference was,..there was nobody else doing testing 4-5 years ago. ...Now it's more accepted. And a bunch of cheats were found out in recent years.

                    By the way,
                    Body acne and joint pain/knee issues isn't paranoia. They are actual signs of steroid use.
                    But like I said...If you can drink your own urine and think it has benefits, you are capable of anything.

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                    • Bolopunch68
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by rambov
                      No Manny. Not true. But you also don't believe that...

                      Guys who got ktfo and came back????? 0000.0
                      You probably doesnt know who Lennox Lewis is.

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