Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: I'm a Better Fighter Since Marquez Loss

[mikemurni]

[QUOTE=therealpugilist;15540251]QUOTE=hanzoh74;15540222]Bradley is much better than those 3 uved mentioned


Corrales is on the same level if not better
Corrales won one of the greatest fights on tape....IMO the best fight I've seen live
In his prime....skill, will, power, desire in that fight on spades

@130-135 Corrales Actually outboxed casa in fight 2,then went on to beat Jose Luis castillo and an undefeated acelino freitas.....that first fight with jlc took his prime....went on to lose last few fights....that was an absolute war...... and before all of that beat or kayoed Robert Garcia, Angel manfredy, john brown, Gary st. Claire, and derrick gainer



People actually favored Diego over Floyd..... That's how good he was



I doubt anyone picks desert storm over Floyd @ 22, 28 or 38 years old
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Except that Floyd didnt get him at his best.. Didn't he.. Dehydrated , coming out from prison, and facing domestic violence charges, which Floyd with all his class, decided to emphasized it to mentally messed him up.

Now before you start throwing a hissy fit, its a legit win.. But it does say that every win can be criticized if you really hating on the fighter.

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I don't know if he is a better fighter, but he has adapted a more boxing first, war second tyoe attitude and seems to content to jump in and out, using hand speed and volume punching...

Weird to say but a boxing manny using angles and movements reminds me of JOE calzaghe but with better punching..

Manny seems much more content on boxing to a decision instead of going for the kill.. And this makes him very hard to beat because he has such fast footwork and high punch output..

That's why I think it's in Floyd's best interest to walk down manny behind the high guard and straight rights as opposed to sitting back like hopkins did vs calzaghe and taylor..

Floyd wont be sitting back in this , he has advantages in size and strength he has not had for many years , Manny will be very surprised by Floyds physical strength and if he thinks Floyd cant hurt him he will be shocked .

Floyd will dominate in this fight , he can stop Manny better believe that .

[mikemurni]

Floyd wont be sitting back in this , he has advantages in size and strength he has not had for many years , Manny will be very surprised by Floyds physical strength and if he thinks Floyd cant hurt him he will be shocked .

Floyd will dominate in this fight , he can stop Manny better believe that .

You mean Floyd didnt have the size and strength advantage against Maidana.. That was just his last fight...lol..

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You mean Floyd didnt have the size and strength advantage against Maidana.. That was just his last fight...lol..

Do you think you understand weight , Im the one that is lol , yes Maidana was bigger and stronger than Floyd with a weight advantage somewhere around 12 pounds in the second fight around 16 in the first fight .

With less than 30 days to go before the mega fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr and Marcos Maidana, both fighters were on target with the regulation weight for their fight on September 13th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Mayweather weighed 150 pounds. Maidana weighed in at 158.

The weights that they’re currently at doesn’t mean they’ll stay there by fight time. We frequently see fighters weighing in one month ahead at a considerably lower weight than the weight they come into fight with.


This means that Maidana might end up over 160 pounds again like the last time he fought Mayweather last May. Maidana came into the fight as a super middleweight at 165 compared to the 150 pound Mayweather. Maidana was able to use his 15 pound weight advantage in the early part of the fight when he was able to land some heavy blows to the head and body of Mayweather.

The extra weight that Maidana carried ended up hurting him badly in the 2nd half of the fight when he faded and the lighter Mayweather was able to take the fight to Maidana and win. Based on Maidana’s current weight of 158, we’re going to see the same pattern in the rematch with Maidana having his moments in the early part of the fight, and then wearing down badly by the 6th round.

Maidana and his trainer Robert Garcia have said repeatedly that the plan is for Maidana to come in below 160 in the 154 pound region, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. It might have been just talk to try and throw Mayweather off, or it could that the weight that Maidana put on after his loss to Mayweather has proven to be difficult to take off.

During the recent 5-city press tour, Maidana looked to be close to 180 pounds. Taking off that kind of weight to get near the 147 pound weight limit is obviously going to be a problem for him, and that’s probably why he’s still at 158. I doubt that he’ll be able to go any lower than that without coming into the fight weight drained.

[sosiqwitit]

None of those guys possess the high guard and straigh right that floyd does..

You can't compare shot or limited guys like Oscar, margs, and rios to floyd mayweather...

and you can't compare slow pokes like guerrero, canelo, and maidana to manny pacquiao.

[brickcityboxing]

Bradley is much better than those 3 uved mentioned

Bradley's biggest wins are Devon and Marquez ... I would count PAC but the tards never count it when it works against their argument so we won't count it when it works for their argument. You can throw in Prov if you reaaaly want to but that was more about the way he won not who he beat doing it...

I'd say Bradley has a little more to go before he's a better win than those guys... He's well on his way though.

[g-wane]

Tommy hearns, terry norris and lennox Lewis and wlad klitchko would all disagree

Difference being they where boxer before they became punchers, not the other way around.

[mikemurni]

Do you think you understand weight , Im the one that is lol , yes Maidana was bigger and stronger than Floyd with a weight advantage somewhere around 12 pounds in the second fight around 16 in the first fight .

With less than 30 days to go before the mega fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr and Marcos Maidana, both fighters were on target with the regulation weight for their fight on September 13th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Mayweather weighed 150 pounds. Maidana weighed in at 158.

The weights that they***8217;re currently at doesn***8217;t mean they***8217;ll stay there by fight time. We frequently see fighters weighing in one month ahead at a considerably lower weight than the weight they come into fight with.


This means that Maidana might end up over 160 pounds again like the last time he fought Mayweather last May. Maidana came into the fight as a super middleweight at 165 compared to the 150 pound Mayweather. Maidana was able to use his 15 pound weight advantage in the early part of the fight when he was able to land some heavy blows to the head and body of Mayweather.

The extra weight that Maidana carried ended up hurting him badly in the 2nd half of the fight when he faded and the lighter Mayweather was able to take the fight to Maidana and win. Based on Maidana***8217;s current weight of 158, we***8217;re going to see the same pattern in the rematch with Maidana having his moments in the early part of the fight, and then wearing down badly by the 6th round.

Maidana and his trainer Robert Garcia have said repeatedly that the plan is for Maidana to come in below 160 in the 154 pound region, but I don***8217;t think that***8217;s going to happen. It might have been just talk to try and throw Mayweather off, or it could that the weight that Maidana put on after his loss to Mayweather has proven to be difficult to take off.

During the recent 5-city press tour, Maidana looked to be close to 180 pounds. Taking off that kind of weight to get near the 147 pound weight limit is obviously going to be a problem for him, and that***8217;s probably why he***8217;s still at 158. I doubt that he***8217;ll be able to go any lower than that without coming into the fight weight drained.

Weight advantage doesnt mean strength you dip*****..Maidana is carrying more water weight at fight night because he rehydrated more than Floyd.. And you said SIZE and STRENGTH.. Floyd had clearly the size advantage with his longer reach and his height.. And here is a fun fact for you neither Maidana nor Floyd are true welterweights..

[hugh grant]

How many fighters in history have come back after ko's like that. I think Pac is something else, quite special. Whether he is better I don't know though. He may be more cautious now, but IMO he could have been cautious before but chose not to be as he was fearless and didn't think people were on his level, so why be cautious?

ATG wise he is on the same level as SRL. Pac is far greater than Floyd, hes had a ton more fights for starters. Pac was 19 when he first became champ its an incredible story, and he was work in progress learning on the job, so has had a few setbacks.

Buts its an incredible story. If he beats Floyd he is second to SRR alone I wouild say, although in theory you could say beating Floyd shouldn't really do much for Pac in terms of Pacs career. But really it should just be compensation for all the doubters Pacs had, and for overturning adversity and coming back full circle.

[Nightfall]

he is the same fighter. he can't fight any other way. expecially after he gets hit. and mayweather is definite going to hit that chin.