Comments Thread For: Froch: Golovkin Small, Ward Unlikely, Chavez Possible

[HeroBando]

Nope, I am not confused

The subject was....

How can you call a Froch/GGG fight a great payday for Froch lol, but not a Ward/Froch fight

That is not confusing at all.

So you'd lost the thread but even this deflection doesn't work. Froch GGG in the UK is better money for Froch cause the split would be way more favorable for Froch. Plus its a much more crowd pleasing fight, and GGG at this point is probably more of a name there

[aboutfkntime]

the dude is a bad boy...

Seriously, how can you dislike Froch ?

Dude takes on all comers, gets himself in wicked shape, and he comes to fight.

Even his style is fan friendly.

The only reason I could see for not liking Froch would be a salty Groves/Degale fans.

And that is probably because the brits get so passionate about their sport, not just boxing...... they will likely back him against foreign opposition.

OK, maybe anti-brits make up some Froch-haters also, but fakk them.

That Froch smile, is pure fkn evil..... I love it !

[HeroBando]

Ward never said "make me an offer". He said "lets make the fight happen" which means both sides can go to HBO and try to make it happen.

Golovkin's manager was then forced to say that there was not enough money for his man to take the fight and that they weren't ready for it yet.

Is that how it works? Chavez goes to Fonfara, says let's both go to SHO and make it happen? I can't really think of one instance when a guy with 10x in purse demand plays it like that, double so if he wants the fight. Cause making an offer is way more effective, and does away with any money excuse, if the offer is reasonable. Then if the guy ducks, move on to next guy. But doesnt seem like Ward approached HBO at all, except for Oosthuisen, Periban and Porky Medina. And did it solo, no going to HBO together with Porky to make it happen lol

[HeroBando]

Seriously, how can you dislike Froch ?

Dude takes on all comers, gets himself in wicked shape, and he comes to fight.

Even his style is fan friendly.

The only reason I could see for not liking Froch would be a salty Groves/Degale fans.

And that is probably because the brits get so passionate about their sport, not just boxing...... they will likely back him against foreign opposition.

OK, maybe anti-brits make up some Froch-haters also, but fakk them.

That Froch smile, is pure fkn evil..... I love it !

I actually respect the **** out of Froch, even more so for his brutal honesty. But he has an extra obnoxious fan/Ggg hater here so I'm just reminding the thick fcuk its hard to build a resume if guys like Froch would rather swerve him

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Is that how it works? Chavez goes to Fonfara, says let's both go to SHO and make it happen? I can't really think of one instance when a guy with 10x in purse demand plays it like that, double so if he wants the fight. Cause making an offer is way more effective, and does away with any money excuse, if the offer is reasonable. Then if the guy ducks, move on to next guy. But doesnt seem like Ward approached HBO at all, except for Oosthuisen, Periban and Porky Medina. And did it solo, no going to HBO together with Porky to make it happen lol

There has to be willingness from both sides to make a fight. Unfortunately there wasn't from Golovkin's side.

Oh well, maybe in 2016....which would be what? 3 or 4 years after the infamous statements about how they'd KO everyone up to 168. Better late than never I guess.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I actually respect the **** out of Froch, even more so for his brutal honesty. But he has an extra obnoxious fan/Ggg hater here so I'm just reminding the thick fcuk its hard to build a resume if guys like Froch would rather swerve him

It's also hard to build a resume when you go to HBO with guys like Willie Munson Jr and Heiland at the top of your list.

Don't you think there's a middle ground somewhere between Froch and Munson?

[aboutfkntime]

I don't think so. You were saying, how come GGG will fight Froch in the UK but not Ward in Oakland. So another poster gave you some reasons, including Froch bringing way more money and fans on his home turf

No.

Barcham said this.....
Fighting Froch in the UK is a huge fight on PPV.

Maybe my reply flew over your head ?

Froch is the UK PPV draw, not GGG !

So, a fight between Froch/GGG in the UK will NOT be a huge PPV draw, compared to Ward fighting Froch in the UK..... they would be the same, because Froch is the draw, not GGG or Ward.

GGG is not yet a PPV star, no matter how you try to spin it..... so why the fakk would Froch find that fight appealing? If Froch fights next up in the UK, Degale would be bigger than both Ward and GGG.

Froch is the star in this equation, and GGG adds nothing, nadda, zip, zero...... certainly not enough to make him more attractive than Ward, which is what Barcham was insinuating.

[HeroBando]

There has to be willingness from both sides to make a fight. Unfortunately there wasn't from Golovkin's side.

Oh well, maybe in 2016....which would be what? 3 or 4 years after the infamous statements about how they'd KO everyone up to 168. Better late than never I guess.

There has to be willingness on both sides, and the other side hasn't had fight scheduled since, and now wants it to marinate. Currently having trouble s paying for a tuneup, so the money concerns were not unfounded. Should have proved them wrong then, he's slowly losing that A side claim

[aboutfkntime]

I actually respect the **** out of Froch, even more so for his brutal honesty. But he has an extra obnoxious fan/Ggg hater here so I'm just reminding the thick fcuk its hard to build a resume if guys like Froch would rather swerve him

" guys like Froch "

you just dont get it man, and it has been clearly explained

" guys like Froch " ?????????/

Froch has one foot in the grave, figuratively. He has fought everyone, has stated numerous times that he is about to retire and that he wants one last fight in the US.

Golovkin aint even in his fkn division lol.

Why on earth would he fight Golovkin ?

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ??

" guys like Froch " ??

What the fakk do you mean by that ?

How about, guys like Ward ?

Explain the difference to me, because Ward is in the same division as Froch, and he (unlike Froch) is not about to retire, and he (unlike Froch) is likely more than happy to fight GGG.

Why, " guys like Froch ", who is about to retire, but not guys like Ward, who is not about to retire?

Ward is obviously a better opponent.

You think somehow, for some strange reason, that Froch owes GGG a payday?

I dont even understand why these two are being mentioned.

[HeroBando]

No.

Barcham said this.....
Fighting Froch in the UK is a huge fight on PPV.

Maybe my reply flew over your head ?

Froch is the UK PPV draw, not GGG !

So, a fight between Froch/GGG in the UK will NOT be a huge PPV draw, compared to Ward fighting Froch in the UK..... they would be the same, because Froch is the draw, not GGG or Ward.

GGG is not yet a PPV star, no matter how you try to spin it..... so why the fakk would Froch find that fight appealing? If Froch fights next up in the UK, Degale would be bigger than both Ward and GGG.

Froch is the star in this equation, and GGG adds nothing, nadda, zip, zero...... certainly not enough to make him more attractive than Ward, which is what Barcham was insinuating.

Dude, please. You said how come GGG will go to UK but not Oakland. Barcham:
"Fighting Froch in the UK is a huge fight on PPV. Fighting Ward in Oakland is only a big fight in the locadraw. kland news papers. "

So you lost the thread but still won't acknowledge GGG would be much cheaper than Ward, and probably sell better. Nowhere did I say GGG is ppv. He's not until he beats a ppv draw.