HBO rejects Ward/Oosthuizen

[Barcham]

TV rights fee, live gate, international (UK/Europe) TV rights fee, event sponsor (Corona seems to be Ward's beer sponsor of choice, but Ward's fight with Rodriguez had Toyota picking up the main ring sponsorship), Ward's own personal sponsorships (Jordan brand, Everlast, etc), and the extra exposure/opportunities that Jay-Z and his company can bring to the table (massive exposure/market penetration in the New York media market, among other non-boxing outlets).

not rocket science.

TBRB, boxing.com, *********.com, Sky Sports, among other sources, still have Ward as the kingpin at 168 and a top p4p fighter.

The hilarious part is that the moment that Ward steps back into the ring (hopefully by May finally), Ward jumps back to the top of every list that has pulled him, due to inactivity. lol

All of that support and still no fight or broadcaster. Pretty sad if you ask me. Get back to me when he has a fight signed.

[big_james10]

Prove it. Show me the offers he has from Showtime. Show me the list of willing opponents to fight him that he and his team have approved. Everyone has options in life, Cotto can become a male stripper in a gay bar or he can retire from boxing to become a gigolo for older gay gentlemen.

But so far, I see little to no evidence of any great options in boxing. But you seem to have all this inside information, no proof though. Shame about that.

I will provide you with proof as soon as you prove to me that you are not Forest Gump's dumber younger brother.

I didn't say he had an offer from Showtime. I said he had the option of fighting on Showtime, which he does. Any fighter who fights at 154 or 160 would be willing to fight Cotto, including Willie Monroe Jr. The fact that you don't see any evidence of great options means about as much as a pimple on a Rhino's ass.

As far as the comment about Cotto becoming a stripper in a gay bar, you would probably criticize him for that.....unless he agreed to dance in the bar that you frequent.

[Barcham]

who the f^ck is "us"? The "big picture"?

'Us' is everyone who lives in the real world where Cotto and Ward have yet to sign a fight since signing their fantastic, better contracts than any other fighter.
Let me, and everyone else, know when either of them get a fight signed against a decent opponent.

[Scipio2009]

Surely you don't think I'm arguing that GGG is a bigger HBO draw than Ward.

Better deal for less than half the money? Absolutely.

I'm simply making the point that people on this site have decided to combine replay numbers and international broadcasts (aired live and in primetime) to try and make a certain case for a fighter, using parameters that they have yet to use for any other fighter.

Golovkin drew 850k homes for the first air, with another 600k tuning in for the replay; to ignore the likelihood that there was significant overlap of homes for the two airings, instead going with the 'Golovkin got seen by a ridiculous number of homes, therefore he's hot ****' story, skews the actual conversation

[Barcham]

I will provide you with proof as soon as you prove to me that you are not Forest Gump's dumber younger brother.

I didn't say he had an offer from Showtime. I said he had the option of fighting on Showtime, which he does. Any fighter who fights at 154 or 160 would be willing to fight Cotto, including Willie Monroe Jr. The fact that you don't see any evidence of great options means about as much as a pimple on a Rhino's ass.

As far as the comment about Cotto becoming a stripper in a gay bar, you would probably criticize him for that.....unless he agreed to dance in the bar that you frequent.

From you sig I assume that you are a Floyd fan. That would explain a lot. Never mind, I will ignore you from here on out.

[Barcham]

I'm simply making the point that people on this site have decided to combine replay numbers and international broadcasts (aired live and in primetime) to try and make a certain case for a fighter, using parameters that they have yet to use for any other fighter.

Golovkin drew 850k homes for the first air, with another 600k tuning in for the replay; to ignore the likelihood that there was significant overlap of homes for the two airings, instead going with the 'Golovkin got seen by a ridiculous number of homes, therefore he's hot ****' story, skews the actual conversation

No one included international audience numbers. Seeing as how the last GGG fight was seen in over 120 countries, they would be quite high indeed. He drew over 6 million in Mexico alone. Not too bad for an afternoon fight.

Let's wait and see how the upcoming Stevenson-Bika fight does in numbers as it will also be on in the afternoon and as it will be on FREE network television, it should be able to draw at least triple or quadruple the numbers of the GGG-Murray fight.

[-PBP-]

I like Ward but this fight has no business on a TV screen. I would rather watch him train and spar.

[sugarsmosley]

ward vs mayorga HBO PPV? good business decision by ward here.

[HeroBando]

I'm simply making the point that people on this site have decided to combine replay numbers and international broadcasts (aired live and in primetime) to try and make a certain case for a fighter, using parameters that they have yet to use for any other fighter.

Golovkin drew 850k homes for the first air, with another 600k tuning in for the replay; to ignore the likelihood that there was significant overlap of homes for the two airings, instead going with the 'Golovkin got seen by a ridiculous number of homes, therefore he's hot ****' story, skews the actual conversation

It's the best anyone has done on these HBO afternoon shows, live or combined with replay.

[jas]

ward vs mayorga HBO PPV? good business decision by ward here.

It's all about the bidiness

You saw Hanz wanting Showtime to get the fight

Ruslan vs Lucas is terrible biddiness