What has Stevenson gained thus far by signing with Haymon?

[Twako]

in hindsight, the kovalev-stevenson fight now is bigger. but that's just it.

stevenson could've earned more than he did his past couple of fights. if he beat kovalev then, then fighting hopkins and pascal after could've been way way bigger than his blahblah fights. and he wouldn't have been called a duck

if he beat kovalev down the road now, the hopkins and pascal fight wont probably make sense anymore.

[SUBZER0ED]

HBO was the one that cast Haymon out. That is an easy enough problem to fix, like I said earlier I am big believer in money talks bull**** walks. If HBO wants to make it happen they can afford to make it happen, and since Haymon wants to take over the sport that is an impossibility with HBO still around not being open to his guys. The quickest path for Haymon to ruling the sport is getting back in at HBO to a degree, his best card for that (beyond the megafight) is Stevenson.

Well the viewership will drop since it won't be prime time it will be an afternoon show, still eyeballs are eyeballs and most people viewing won't know a damn thing about either man.

Really it doesn't matter when they fight both guys are what they are
, the result will probably be the same 1 year ago or 1 year from now. So it doesn't bother me at all waiting.

He messed around for a year plus, how much the plan was the right or wrong move comes down to how the end of the story goes.

Hershman insists that HBO didn't cast Haymon out, and that he will make a deal with anyone- if it's the right deal. Good news for boxing, if that's true.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2393981-is-hbo-vs-al-haymon-boxings-next-big-fight

[Box-Office]

in hindsight, the kovalev-stevenson fight now is bigger. but that's just it.

stevenson could've earned more than he did his past couple of fights. if he beat kovalev then, then fighting hopkins and pascal after could've been way way bigger than his blahblah fights. and he wouldn't have been called a duck

if he beat kovalev down the road now, the hopkins and pascal fight wont probably make sense anymore.

IF being the key word here. Stevenson after losing to Kovalev would not be a champion and most likely may have not attained the same amount of money he has by fighting Fonfara and Bika, because $ is exactly what seems to be his primary concern.

Stevenson is a Draw and Quebecers get behind their guy. He knows it, so might as well milk the cow.

Also as you mentioned Kovalev fight is now bigger, so if he were to lose, might as well do it after earning some serious money before hand AS well as getting a bigger purse for the inevitable spanking from Kovalev.

[Ryn0]

He would've lost his title much sooner had he fought anyone decent he has managed a few paydays against rubbish fighters before he is undoubtedly knocked out by anyone good.

[The Gambler1981]

Hershman insists that HBO didn't cast Haymon out, and that he will make a deal with anyone- if it's the right deal. Good news for boxing, if that's true.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...next-big-fight

GBP was pretty much all Haymon at that point and Schaeffer was essentially Haymon's right hand. You can't cut off someones right hand and be like ok we will still work with the rest of you.

That was some time ago now though and things are different. Both sides as much as they would hate to admit it need the other if they want to achieve mutual goals.

If they can start dealing that is a positive sign for all parties, going forward.

[PulpFriction]

No it's not the benchmark. It's simply an answer to the TS question. Kov got that After earning about 150k for the BHop fight.

The Kov payday wasn't going to be any bigger than what he got for the showtime fights he's had.

I believe Chavez is now on Haymon's roster. He is fighting fonfara who Stevenson defeated. I would think he'd make a fight with Stevenson before he would either of them. Besides, Froch is acting now.

Why would I be crossing my fingers? You've already stated he gets huge paydays for easy wins. He already got more than he would've for Kov fight twice.

SO its been great for his income, bad in every other way.

You're off by $350,000

[Twako]

IF being the key word here. Stevenson after losing to Kovalev would not be a champion and most likely may have not attained the same amount of money he has by fighting Fonfara and Bika, because $ is exactly what seems to be his primary concern.

Stevenson is a Draw and Quebecers get behind their guy. He knows it, so might as well milk the cow.

Also as you mentioned Kovalev fight is now bigger, so if he were to lose, might as well do it after earning some serious money before hand AS well as getting a bigger purse for the inevitable spanking from Kovalev.

you just affirmed his ducking, and that he can't beat kovalev lol.

[-Kev-]

I'm not a Stevenson fan, so I don't follow his career all that much. I have seen 3 of his fights. Dawson, Cloud, Bellew. He looked good in all 3 but I can't really get up to watch Stevenson vs Fonfora or Sukhotsky. I would watch the Bika fight because Bika is a tough guy that always goes 12 and will push any fighter of any level.

[-Kev-]

You're off by $350,000

No, you're off by IRS, promoter's cut, manager's cut and corner's cut. So yeah $150k seems accurate.

[STREET CLEANER]

I don't know how much you think the fight is worth now compared to then. It's not Mayweather-Pacquaio. How long do you accept "building a fight"? When they fought on the same card a couple of years ago - that was designed to build the fight. It could always in theory become bigger. So why not have both of them KO some bums until 2016 or 2017 when it will really be at it's apex!

Plus, like I keep saying, Kovalev and Duva are going to be coming from a much stronger position now that they've actually put work in. In the first round of negotiations, they were willing to take the short end of the money. Now....not so much.

As for Stevenson, his stock has dropped after that ****ty display against Fonfara and the fact that no one is watching him fight.

Right now Kov is riding high, all we need is a good showing from Stevenson in his next fight.

You know if they fight you will be watching with anticipation. Two proven big punchers in the heights of their careers.