What has Stevenson gained thus far by signing with Haymon?

[The Big Dunn]

Yes you're right, that is propaganda because it's an outright lie.

you saying this doesn't change the truth. you have said its ok to take the more lucrative fight then the better fight. Haymon got Adonis 2 fights that were more lucrative than the offer for the Kov fight.

Others can complain, you should sit down and be quiet as you have no problem with this in other instances, most recently the rigo/Frampton/quigg situation.

[Deevel916]

He would have made more for Bhop and Pascal over the 2 bums because of the showtime deal.

no matter how you cut it, ANY fighter getting an exclusive HBO/SHO deal is good for them.

I agreed that in no other way has it been beneficial other than economically. How can anyone (other than a poster with a dirk agenda) disagree with that.

How did it benefit him economically if he would have made more for Pascal and Hops than the 2 guys he did fight?

Lets even throw Kov into the equation. Are you telling me that had Stevenson fought Pascal/Hopkins/Kovalev, he would have made less than he did for fighting Fonfara/Sukhotsky/Bika?

If your answer is no then he did not benefit economically from the Haymon deal.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

you saying this doesn't change the truth. you have said its ok to take the more lucrative fight then the better fight. Haymon got Adonis 2 fights that were more lucrative than the offer for the Kov fight.

Others can complain, you should sit down and be quiet as you have no problem with this in other instances, most recently the rigo/Frampton/quigg situation.

He didn't get paid more for the Fonfara fight than he would have against Kovalev. Stop trying to swindle the public again, Dunn.

[The Gambler1981]

It will be interesting to see if Stevenson ever faces Kovalev. Stevenson is with Haymon, who no longer does business with HBO, which Kovalev has an exclusive deal with. As another poster stated, the likely-hood of this fight being big enough for inter-network cooperation is slim.

Nobody cares about Stevenson vs Bika. I wouldn't be surprised if viewership actually drops from the previous PBC shows, unless they have some big undercards. If Stevenson beats Bika, so what? he's supposed to. Now if Bika gives Stevenson a hard time, once again, Superduck will have shot himself in the foot. That could further reduce interest in seeing him fight Krusher.

Stevenson has taken the wrong path in his career, IMO. He would have been better off fighting Kovalev while he was still early in developing his technique. But now that Kovalev has honed his skill more and gotten Hopkins and Pascal under his belt, he's more formidable than ever.

HBO was the one that cast Haymon out. That is an easy enough problem to fix, like I said earlier I am big believer in money talks bull**** walks. If HBO wants to make it happen they can afford to make it happen, and since Haymon wants to take over the sport that is an impossibility with HBO still around not being open to his guys. The quickest path for Haymon to ruling the sport is getting back in at HBO to a degree, his best card for that (beyond the megafight) is Stevenson.

Well the viewership will drop since it won't be prime time it will be an afternoon show, still eyeballs are eyeballs and most people viewing won't know a damn thing about either man.

Really it doesn't matter when they fight both guys are what they are
, the result will probably be the same 1 year ago or 1 year from now. So it doesn't bother me at all waiting.

He messed around for a year plus, how much the plan was the right or wrong move comes down to how the end of the story goes.

[The Big Dunn]

How did it benefit him economically if he would have made more for Pascal and Hops than the 2 guys he did fight?

Lets even throw Kov into the equation. Are you telling me that had Stevenson fought Pascal/Hopkins/Kovalev, he would have made less than he did for fighting Fonfara/Sukhotsky/Bika?

If your answer is no then he did not benefit economically from the Haymon deal.

No I am not saying that at all. My point is easy to understand.

short term-he made more in each of the crap fights than he was offered for Kov fight from HBO.

middle term-He put himself in position to make more for the Bhop/Pascal fights with the exclusive deal, then didn't make those fights and has been dealing with all the fallout you mentioned.

long term-if he gets more for a Kov fight than originally offered and gets a chavez jr fight, he'd make up and exceed the money he would have made had he not walked away from bhop and pascal fights.

[aldo5408]

He has made alot more money than kov that's for surem remember hbo wanted them to split like 1.5 Mill steveson hot that much vs fontara. Yes I think stevenson is ducking kov but he's making money and that's initially ehat this games about

[Deevel916]

No I am not saying that at all. My point is easy to understand.

short term-he made more in each of the crap fights than he was offered for Kov fight from HBO.

middle term-He put himself in position to make more for the Bhop/Pascal fights with the exclusive deal, then didn't make those fights and has been dealing with all the fallout you mentioned.

long term-if he gets more for a Kov fight than originally offered and gets a chavez jr fight, he'd make up and exceed the money he would have made had he not wlaked away from bhop and pascal fights.

But you did say that......"I agreed that in no other way has it been beneficial other than economically. How can anyone (other than a poster with a dirk agenda) disagree with that"

If he's made less for his past 2 fights than he would have fighting 2/3 guys that he turned down, then how did he benefit financially?

So once again, thus far, what has he gained by signing with Haymon because it hasn't been financially beneficial considering what he would have made for fighting the 3 guys that he turned down?

[The Big Dunn]

But you did say that......"I agreed that in no other way has it been beneficial other than economically. How can anyone (other than a poster with a dirk agenda) disagree with that"

If he's made less for his past 2 fights than he would have fighting 2/3 guys that he turned down, then how did he benefit financially?

So once again, thus far, what has he gained by signing with Haymon because it hasn't been financially beneficial considering what he would have made for fighting the 3 guys that he turned down?

Once again, he gained the exclusive showtime deal which paid him more for the fights he made than he would've got for the Kov fight.

You act as if he makes the same money without the deal. I don't think he does. You are assuming he would have fought Bhop and Pascal. You don't know that for sure.

Thus far he got much more money than he would have had he taken the same path, which I assume he would've. If he takes a different path, maybe he would've made more.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No I am not saying that at all. My point is easy to understand.

short term-he made more in each of the crap fights than he was offered for Kov fight from HBO.

middle term-He put himself in position to make more for the Bhop/Pascal fights with the exclusive deal, then didn't make those fights and has been dealing with all the fallout you mentioned.

long term-if he gets more for a Kov fight than originally offered and gets a chavez jr fight, he'd make up and exceed the money he would have made had he not walked away from bhop and pascal fights.

But he didn't.

[Barcham]

Stevenson's promoter has just contacted the WBC asking them to set up a purse bid as soon as possible for a Stevenson-Kovalev title fight. I just started a thread if anyone wants to comment.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670750