"Krusher" Kovalev vs RJJ@ 168-175lbs/12-12.5 Stone. Who wins?

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #141
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    Agreed. ODLH was extremely fast, had great fundamentals and sick power from LW to WW. Personally I thought his fight with Floyd was a draw and that wasn't anywhere near the best Oscar. Had Floyd fought him at his peak I think he would have lost. People have forgotten how damn special he was. He beat Tito and Shane too as far as I'm concerned.
    Well said. Good post. I agree 100%. My thoughts exactly.

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      #142
      Roy by decision

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        #143
        Have we finally reached the obvious conclusion that Roy boxed circles around Kovalev?

        Yes? Good.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep
          Have we finally reached the obvious conclusion that Roy boxed circles around Kovalev?

          Yes? Good.
          Nothing obvious about it. Kovalev's ring IQ and generalship is too high to let that happen. He would catch RJJ pivoting left and right with vicious shots and impose his will.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran
            You're nuts bro, prime Roy didn't have the stones to fight Nigel Benn or Darius Michaelwhateverthe****, never mind try to spark them. Kovalev's chin is way sturdier than Roy's sandcastle jaw. I think Kovalev would expose that glass.
            Fights against Benn and Dariusz were hard to make.

            Kov looks great, but he seems easy enough to hit to me. I'd have to fancy Roy.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Humean
              I think there are legitimate criticisms of Jones' competition. Michalczewski was certainly the one big miss but there were some fighters, mainly from Europe, fighting at 168 or 190 that Jones probably should have tried harder to lure into the ring with him. Even his unification fights are somewhat tarnished by the terrible sanctioning body politics that gave rise to those belts being stripped from Michalczewski.
              I was about to say that's the only one. But that's been debated for years. He didn't want to leave Germany and come fight Roy in the states.

              He was offered $5million to fight Roy on HBO according to them. Also didn't beat anyone of note anyway.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                Agreed. ODLH was extremely fast, had great fundamentals and sick power from LW to WW. Personally I thought his fight with Floyd was a draw and that wasn't anywhere near the best Oscar. Had Floyd fought him at his peak I think he would have lost. People have forgotten how damn special he was. He beat Tito and Shane too as far as I'm concerned.
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                The one time Roy got dropped in his prime he got up more like it was a slip than a knock down. He wasn't even close to being hurt. The drop back down from HW ruined his punch resistance and stamina as it has known to do many fighters. Look into how pathetic of a chin Chris Byrd had when he dropped down to lhw from hw. He was taking big shots from guys a lot bigger than him for a decade and then all of the sudden he cant take a stiff jab from a journeyman.

                Nuff said
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                DM wasnt willing to fight Roy in the US and as you know the P4P no1 fighter calls the shots. It's always been that simple. That's also why the Hopkins rematch didn't happen when it mattered and why Calzaghe waited to fight Roy when he was past it. At his peak Jones was just too much of a gamble for those guys.
                You need to step out of Klitschko threads more often.

                Good posts.

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                  #148
                  People forget just how good Roy was, during his prime I thought no one would ever come close to him (barring the Montel Griffin fight).

                  There is almost no one I'd pick over him from 160-175, maybe Michael Spinks in his prime before he became HW champ. I don't think Kovalev is as good as a prime Toney or Hopkins. Toney had a better defense, Hopkins is a better mover and boxer than Kovalev. Kovalev has more power obviously but I don't think he could have touched Roy.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                    kovalev split decision.

                    roy gonna get dropped several times play keep away the rest of the fight. look like poor man's hopkins thousands of years later.
                    Your theory doesn't make any sense.

                    If Roy had been dropped several times, they'd all have been 10-8 rounds to Kov. And if that had've made Roy cautious and he'd have stayed away, then there's no way he could have made up the deficit.

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                      #150
                      Prime Roy obliterates Kovalev


                      I mean he's been dropped by lesser fighters the one that's fighting now gets blown out in under 6..For all the power the Krusher possess Jones had power in both hands and with blinding speed ..Kovalev would have been out gunned .

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