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  • #71
    Originally posted by MrTambourineMan View Post
    This is called 'Situation Management'

    You take an idea or situation ( In Big Dumbo's Case - Posters who think Floyd's Career isn't all that - and that his fans have embarrassed themselves for years now ) and you pick and twist at it Until you have a warped version that suits your agenda

    This of course leads to a dangerous way of thinking that says: "If this person is against my idea then other's must be too.

    " Then the Delusion really kicks in."

    They'll throw in lies with the occasional Half-Truth and be vocal in an attempt to try and Have themselves be taken seriously.

    It really is Cult like
    It truly is.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
      Oh no, I got you. Cotto is ducking GGG, but Canelo fighting at MW against a JMW isn't ducking GGG because:

      A - HE REALLY REALLY want Cotto so it's okay. (Like Cotto wants Floyd)
      B - He really isn't a MW (Even though he's fighting at MW)
      C - The timing isn't right yet, because the Cotto fight makes more sense.
      do you really think canelo is ducking GGG??
      im not even going to debate on this, just want to know your opinion...

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      • #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        Ahh the frame the poster to try and weaken the point. Typical. It's called apply equally. So in your case, suck both my nuts, not just the left one.
        Weaken the point? You never had a point.

        AND no, It's not Called "Apply Equally", especially when it comes from someone with a life designated to defending a Boxer and his antics.

        "Suck both my nuts, not just the left one." - The Anger and Low IQ coming through.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by MrTambourineMan View Post
          Weaken the point? You never had a point.

          AND no, It's not Called "Apply Equally", especially when it comes from someone with a life designated to defending a Boxer and his antics.

          "Suck both my nuts, not just the left one." - The Anger and Low IQ coming through.

          I post at the IQ level of whomever I am responding to.

          When deevel applies standards equally maybe he will have a valid point. when you selectively decide ducking based on how someone looks or what channel they fight on, you kill your own argument.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by icha View Post
            do you really think canelo is ducking GGG??
            im not even going to debate on this, just want to know your opinion...
            No. He's ducking the entire MW division except for Cotto. You would disagree with that?

            EDIT: With my answer there is no debate to make it's 100% fact.
            Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 02-25-2015, 06:01 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              I post at the IQ level of whomever I am responding to.

              When deevel applies standards equally maybe he will have a valid point. when you selectively decide ducking based on how someone looks or what channel they fight on, you kill your own argument.
              No you don't. You're just an idiot.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I post at the IQ level of whomever I am responding to.

                When deevel applies standards equally maybe he will have a valid point. when you selectively decide ducking based on how someone looks or what channel they fight on, you kill your own argument.
                Equally? Maybe you missed the "etc" at the end of the examples I gave.

                I listed one of the most notorious ducks (bowe ducking Lewis) along with some of the most recent ducks. What other duck should I have named that would have satisfied you? Or are u just sour that the ones I mentioned were as a result of you're Idol al Haymon?
                Last edited by Deevel916; 02-25-2015, 06:09 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                  Equally? Maybe you missed the "etc" at the end of the examples I gave.

                  I listed one of the most notorious ducks (bowe ducking Lewis) along with some of the most recent ducks. What other duck should I have named that would have satisfied you? Or are u just sour they the ones I mentioned were as a result of you're Idol al Haymon?
                  You read my response. In bowe's case his career is finished. So that is a duck. The others you listed haven't fought yet as their careers are not over. There is a difference.

                  I explained my points about you twice. You using " Etc. " In no way shape or form meant you are treating everyone equally. You bringing up Haymon means nothing as I didn't bring his name up. your selectively in that respect illustrates your biases.

                  When you apply ducking equally, then your point has more validity. Until then, it's not hard to tell what you really are doing.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    You read my response. In bowe's case his career is finished. So that is a duck. The others you listed haven't fought yet. There is a difference.

                    I explained my points about you twice. You using " Etc. " In no way shape or form meant you are treating everyone equally. You bringing up Haymon means nothing as I didn't bring his name up. your selectively in that respect illustrates your biases.

                    When you apply ducking equally, then your point has more validity. Until then, it's not hard to tell what you really are doing.
                    Doesn't matter if they haven't fought yet. The fact remains that they all had the opportunity to fight yet chose otherwise.

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                    • #80
                      For the paying public: a loss. For your legacy: the duck. Check how many losses the greatest fighters have. Now tell me who they ducked.

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