What hurts a fighter's stock more a Loss or Ducking?

[-PBP-]

Bowe ducked Lewis. This cannot be disputed.

Adonis ducked Kovalev. This cannot be disputed

LSC ducked Rigo. This cannot be disputed.

Chavez Jr ducked GGG. This cannot be disputed.

Etc....


You guys can call it "business decisions" all you want but the fact remains that they chose NOT to fight. When a person declines a fight against someone viewed as a threat only to turn around and fight a lesser opponent then it can only be seen as a duck!

The question is what hurts a fighters stock more, a loss or a duck? LSC ducked Rigo which hurt his stock. But getting embarrassed in a one sided fight would hurt him more.

By ducking, LSC leaves the Mares fight open for later this year. When LSC fights Mares Rigo will be an afterthought.

I don't like ducking and want to see the best fight the best but fans talk with their wallets and when a fighter takes an L, less fans pay to see them fight.

Last year the hottest fight in boxing was Thurman vs. Porter. Porter lost and that fight hasn't been mentioned once since. If Porter ducked Brook that would still be one of the best fights to make between 2 undefated prime fighters.

[The Big Dunn]

Bowe ducked Lewis. This cannot be disputed.

Adonis ducked Kovalev. This cannot be disputed

LSC ducked Rigo. This cannot be disputed.

Chavez Jr ducked GGG. This cannot be disputed.

Etc....


You guys can call it "business decisions" all you want but the fact remains that they chose NOT to fight. When a person declines a fight against someone viewed as a threat only to turn around and fight a lesser opponent then it can only be seen as a duck!

The only one that is a "duck" is Bowe. He threw the title in the garbage. the other fighters haven't had their careers end so we don't know if they will fight.

Besides, posters like you are selective with your outrage. you list rigo/LSC but when asked about things like ODH waiting to fight Floyd or Manny not responding to Broner's call out-then you don't call it a duck.

I'd give your opinion more respect if you actually called every time a fighter doesn't fight and takes on a lesser opponent a duck. Then when called on it, you come with stuff like "oh he isn't a threat". pathetic.

Your selective outrage, which all too often is limited to certain fighters based on how they look, can't be overlooked. It's a dead giveaway.

[El-blanco]

The only one that is a "duck" is Bowe. He threw the title in the garbage. the other fighters haven't had their careers end so we don't know if they will fight.

Besides, posters like you are selective with your outrage. you list rigo/LSC but when asked about things like ODH waiting to fight Floyd or Manny not responding to Broner's call out-then you don't call it a duck.

I'd give your opinion more respect if you actually called every time a fighter doesn't fight and takes on a lesser opponent a duck. Then when called on it, you come with stuff like "oh he isn't a threat". pathetic.

Your selective outrage, which all too often is limited to certain fighters based on how they look, can't be overlooked. It's a dead giveaway.

Wtf are you droning on about?

[SUBZER0ED]

Quillin is not that good and doesn't have stock. If he fought GGG he would get KO'd and fade away. By ducking he continues to make money and stay relevant. If Haymon felt Quillin could win he would make the fight because a win and being from NY would propel him to a household name in boxing.

Quillen is still relevant? To whom?

[The Gambler1981]

Do guys have to rebuild their career from devastating ducks?


Or do they just have to fight someone quality and move one?

[-PBP-]

Quillen is still relevant? To whom?

He still gets talked about and he's getting another title shot. I'm the biggest critic of Quillin on this site and agree that he should be fighting GGG yesterday.

But I'm not delusional. He's ducking because he can't win and will get good money and more title shots by avoiding him. If he gets KO'd he will struggle to get back to the position he is in right now.

What if Adrien Broner ducked Maidana and went back to lightweight? He would still have a trillion threads about him and people would still be calling him the next Floyd.

[Deevel916]

Wtf are you droning on about?

LOL. I was just about to ask the same thing!

[SUBZER0ED]

Do guys have to rebuild their career from devastating ducks?


Or do they just have to fight someone quality and move one?

That's just it; in order to erase the shame of his duck(s), a fighter has to take on some notable opposition. Again, look at Stevenson. He's passed on some potentially great fights, and has instead fought lesser fights & even got dropped by Fonfarej. For him, the notable opposition he needs for redemption are the very guys he's ducked: Kovalev, Hopkins & Pascal.

[SlySlickSmooth]

If you lose to other great fighters, so what if you gave it your all.

But if you duck other great fighters to fight your sparring partners or going as so far to drop your own title? Come on now...

[The Gambler1981]

That's just it; in order to erase the shame of his duck(s), a fighter has to take on some notable opposition. Again, look at Stevenson. He's passed on some potentially great fights, and has instead fought lesser fights & even got dropped by Fonfarej. For him, the notable opposition he needs for redemption are the very guys he's ducked: Kovalev, Hopkins & Pascal.

Alright Stevenson.

He has flushed all his momentum down the toilet with his career. However, how bad off is he if he takes care of business against Bika on national TV?

People will still want the Kovalev fight and the fight will essentially be bigger than it was when people wanted it to begin with. So how much is that really hurting him? That is mosquito bite like in comparison to getting back from a loss because people will think you will lose to that guy and anyone remotely like him until proven otherwise.