Comments Thread For: Arum More Confident Now of Pacquiao Beating Mayweather

[darius45]

Floyd is gonna get his ass beat up!

It's not gonna happen. If Algeiri could run around the ring all night and avoid serious exchanges, so can Floyd. But Floyd will be active enough to score point and steal rounds. I honestly don't think this fight will be as exciting as people want it to be, sadly. It's all on Manny to push the action. If Manny just boxes he gets the blame. If Floyd runs, well that's just Floyd being Floyd TBE.

[D4thincarnation]

When judah knocked floyd off balance and nearly dropped him. That was a counter punch. He threw right after Mayweather threw and caught him. Yes, thats countering

They throw at the same time. 16.42 and 16:43 Judah beat him to the punch.

You still think Judah was countering him early on and that was the basis of his success?

I bet you I can find more punches landed when Judah gets off first than when he counters. In the first 4 rounds.

[D4thincarnation]

It's not gonna happen. If Algeiri could run around the ring all night and avoid serious exchanges, so can Floyd. But Floyd will be active enough to score point and steal rounds. I honestly don't think this fight will be as exciting as people want it to be, sadly. It's all on Manny to push the action. If Manny just boxes he gets the blame. If Floyd runs, well that's just Floyd being Floyd TBE.

So Floyd is going to run around the ring all night just hoping to survive

[Robbie Barrett]

lmfao...You think Floyd is smart!!!! Thats funny. Hes smart at ducking fights. Ex******ly smart in cherry picking. His oppponents are old or paid off or slow fat footed one punch at a time type fighter.

I didnt say you win fights by just throwing. duh. Are you that loopy to think that? lol But by steady making a fighter retreat or going on the defense because you cant be set to punch back...How the *** are you gonna win?

Plus Manny...unlike any other fighter Floyd has EVER fought...Is gone before a counter is even thought about firing. That pull back bullshlt Floyd uses will NEVER work with Manny. The Coward shell will Never work with Manny.

Floyd is gonna get his ass beat up!

The JMM fights were so one-sided because Pacquiao was gone before JMM could even think about countering.

[therealpugilist]

I have stepped in a ring actually.

If Manny wasn't a cerebral fighter, he would not be able to stick to game plans or adapt his style.

He has continuously done so.

I could write I rough game plan on how Pacquiao should fight, and a plan b and c.

Manny can fight them all, because he has done so in the past. Obviously there a few traps to set just for Floyd.

Manny is a smart fighter good punch plaCement but isn't as good at controlling range, Cutting off the ring, fighting off the back foot...he is great @ pivot angles but so is Floyd who is taller, longer reach n better defense

Who adjusts better mid fight to his opponent?


Floyd or Manny?


IMO the deck is more stacked against Manny

Floyd is better at more in ring skills n works harder than any athlete I've seen

[mathed]

It's not gonna happen. If Algeiri could run around the ring all night and avoid serious exchanges, so can Floyd. But Floyd will be active enough to score point and steal rounds. I honestly don't think this fight will be as exciting as people want it to be, sadly. It's all on Manny to push the action. If Manny just boxes he gets the blame. If Floyd runs, well that's just Floyd being Floyd TBE.

Algieri got dropped what, 6 times? LOL, if that is you barometer for Floyd's performance against him, then Floyd is getting smacked the phuck up.

[twosweethooks]

NOT ONE TIME has the so-called TBE fought a prime elite Welter Weight.

He avoided each one.

He cherry picked his way to moneydom. Money paid to see him beaten.

This will end in a KO, Pac will KO JR.

Jr's only hope is to RUN RUN RUN and survive the onslaught.

I believe he will RUN. The KO will come in the first 4 rounds or the last 4.

or Jr will suffer a terrible beat down and will look to QUIT like the Cur he is.

[D4thincarnation]

Manny is a smart fighter good punch plaCement but isn't as good at controlling range, Cutting off the ring, fighting off the back foot...he is great @ pivot angles but so is Floyd who is taller, longer reach n better defense

Who adjusts better mid fight to his opponent?


Floyd or Manny?


IMO the deck is more stacked against Manny

Floyd is better at more in ring skills n works harder than any athlete I've seen

Is Floyd going to push Pacquiao on the back foot?

Pacquiao doesn't need to make adjustment because he starts fast and is normally well up come the mid way point, most his fight over recent years have been shut outs.

Pacquiao work rate is higher

You really think Floyd is going to wait and counter Pacquiao

The only way Floyd wins is by KO.

[darius45]

So Floyd is going to run around the ring all night just hoping to survive

It's a possibility we should all prepare ourselves for. Don't get pumped up for a night of explosive exchanges when it's very likely Floyd pop shots his way to a split decision in his home town. Floyd isn't going to hang around on the ropes just for the sake of entertainment like in the first Maidana fight. He'll be on point like he was in the second Maidana fight. Maybe a few good exchanges, Maybe Floyd gets caught and then stays extremely sharp and defensive for the rest of the fight. I swear, if Floyd gets in trouble he'll grow wings... I can't see Manny pulling off a UD or SD (not in Vegas)... he'll need a KO. He'll have to cut off the ring and take chances throughout the fight.

But Manny isn't going to be "easy work" for Floyd. Guaranteed his OCD attention to training will be at all time high for this fight.

[Rath]

am I reaching if I assume you've never stepped foot in the ring a day of your life.


you just don't one day go in the gym and never fought a certain way and try it and it expect it to work in your next fight.


Manny isn't a cerebral fighter....he is instinctive, active...mayweather is calculated and reflexive


Manny makes a lot of unnecessary movements and Mayweather is a tactician where every move has a purpose



Roach is not the best trainer at making mid fight instruction adjustments....Manny usually took over fights with physicality, not changing his gameplan or taking a fighters best assets away.


When Morales was backing him up and busting him up in the first fight, Manny didn't change anything up.

He fought Marquez 4 times and fought him the same way each time, safe the 3rd fight which Many think he lost as I do


Against Bradley he didn't adapt or step on the gas...Bradley fought the wrong fight...throwing bombs when he has no power and he is a far better boxer than brawler



you'll see when they fight

Most of what you have said here is correct.

What you forgot is that there is an intangible in this equation.

Floyd's boxing fundamentals is exceptional, if you notice how Floyd fights it is like Bruce Lee's "no thinking" principle an automatic reaction. As if Floyd knows what his opponent is going to do next even.

Every boxer if not all are trained the basics and they do this day in and day out in training and becomes part of them.

Part of the reason why Floyd is a very good counter puncher. Look at Floyd and Roger mitt practice, Floyd does not even look at where Rogers mitt was he knows where it will be at that moment and also knows when Roger will swing that left or right hook or that right straight.

That mitt practice is not just a mitt practice, it is what's going to happen in the ring. Back to where I say everybody are trained with boxing basics and fundamentals. When a boxer throws a jab followed by a straight you are in a certain kind of position to throw that because that's what the basics and fundamentals taught you to do

Now the problem, as you said Pac don't think in the ring and fight on instinct you are somehow right. Pac never had the luxury of professional trainer in his early boxing days. He does not have that basic boxing skills and fundamental which Floyd is used to, hence what everybody says awkward angles awkward style.

Floyd is not prepared for that. What Floyd is trained to do or react when a left jab is thrown depending on opponents stance and position is a right straight which the shoulder roll would just blocked and slipped again the basics right?

Pac don't do those basics. Floyd would be a bit confuse or kind of lost his rythm.

That is the intangible I am talking about, when Floyd starts to think first before he reacts. That split second hesitation would prove to be his undoing and would spell doom for him.

Every Pac opponents said Pac's so fast they did not saw where the punch was coming. Wrong and right, Pac is fast but to say they did not saw where the punch came from is wrong what they were actually saying is that they were expecting a right straight (basic and fundamentals) but they've got a left hook in stead.

But hey what do I know