Comments Thread For: Arum More Confident Now of Pacquiao Beating Mayweather

[D4thincarnation]

am I reaching if I assume you've never stepped foot in the ring a day of your life.


you just don't one day go in the gym and never fought a certain way and try it and it expect it to work in your next fight.


Manny isn't a cerebral fighter....he is instinctive, active...mayweather is calculated and reflexive


Manny makes a lot of unnecessary movements and Mayweather is a tactician where every move has a purpose



Roach is not the best trainer at making mid fight instruction adjustments....Manny usually took over fights with physicality, not changing his gameplan or taking a fighters best assets away.


When Morales was backing him up and busting him up in the first fight, Manny didn't change anything up.

He fought Marquez 4 times and fought him the same way each time, safe the 3rd fight which Many think he lost as I do


Against Bradley he didn't adapt or step on the gas...Bradley fought the wrong fight...throwing bombs when he has no power and he is a far better boxer than brawler



you'll see when they fight

I have stepped in a ring actually.

If Manny wasn't a cerebral fighter, he would not be able to stick to game plans or adapt his style.

He has continuously done so.

I could write I rough game plan on how Pacquiao should fight, and a plan b and c.

Manny can fight them all, because he has done so in the past. Obviously there a few traps to set just for Floyd.

[Johnwoo8686]

No, it quite simple easy. Judah would throw first and when he did, he had success.



Watch the first 4 rounds.

From your posts I can only assume, A you never saw the fight, or B you really don't understand boxing as well you say you do.

No wonder you have to listen for other people opinion.

Clearly you don't understand boxing if you ever thought this fight was 90/10 in favor of Manny when the odds are reversed in the other direction. If you think Manny is going to cause problems similar to Judah then you need a brain examination. Judah is more technically sound and can counter. Manny is none of those things. However he does have more heart thanJudah

[D4thincarnation]

Clearly you don't understand boxing if you ever thought this fight was 90/10 in favor of Manny when the odds are reversed in the other direction. If you think Manny is going to cause problems similar to Judah then you need a brain examination. Judah is more technically sound and can counter. Manny is none of those things. However he does have more heart thanJudah

You still think Judah was countering earlier on and was the basis of his early success?

[therealpugilist]

Fact. Floyd has never fought a fighter in his cherry picking career that throws as many punches per round than Manny. Most of his fighter were slow and flat footed and threw dlck for punches. when you got a thousand punches in a fight coming at you and a steady work rate with insane movement...its real hard to get off a punch that will end a fight. JMM had 4 tries to land one punch.

cherry picker lol


dude has defeated 13 former/future world champions and titlists in a row and won a lineal title in his 18th pro fight...those must be some good trees you smoking

....I wonder what you think of the rest of the active fighters ROFL




you don't win rounds by throwing, you win them by landing


Manny has been kayoed by 2 no names, outboxed by a past prime Erik Morales and JMM(fight 3) and ko'ed by 39 year old JMM


The same can be said of Mayweather....Manny has not stepped in the ring with a fighter as smart, talented, and works as hard as money


throwing punches don't win fights, its when you throw them

[Rath]

First Floyd is afraid of Pac and won't make the fight, then Floyd was forced to sign the contract and will get beat, but after Floyd wins Pac will be a bum and Floyd will get no credit, AMIRITE?

I already posted this before.

There are two types of cowards, The first coward stays coward no matter what, his fear is too much that he can't get over it with.

The second coward is someone who gets over his fear either by psyching himself up that he can do it or that he has nowhere else to go but face his fears. When he mustered enough courage to face his fears, that does not make him not coward before, only this time his kinda brave LOL kinda

If Floyd himself saying "guess what, I am a rich coward" is not an admission of guilt, I don't know what is

Do you really believe that it's only Floyd who's not going to get the credit he deserve if he wins this?

Pac would not get his too. believe me, both sides will downplay every single thing Floyd and Pac achieved thru hardwork and Pedication by fans of both sides

[mathed]

Clearly you don't understand boxing if you ever thought this fight was 90/10 in favor of Manny when the odds are reversed in the other direction. If you think Manny is going to cause problems similar to Judah then you need a brain examination. Judah is more technically sound and can counter. Manny is none of those things. However he does have more heart thanJudah

You still think Judah was countering earlier on and was the basis of his early success?

So........just how does Manny fare against "that" Judah? Does he win, if so, does he squeak out a decision or is it a KO victory? Does he even win the fight at all? Personally, I think at that point in time, Pac KO's him. If they were to fight today, Pac blasts him out via 10-2 UD worst case. Does it really mean anything in the end? Probably not, just another notch in an existing pattern amongst common opposition.

[Johnwoo8686]

You still think Judah was countering earlier on and was the basis of his early success?

When judah knocked floyd off balance and nearly dropped him. That was a counter punch. He threw right after Mayweather threw and caught him. Yes, thats countering

[darius45]

- Speed can be beaten with timing.

- I don't think Mayweather has problems particularly with southpaws. I've seen him have trouble with both southpaws and orthodox fighters. In fact, I think his toughest fights were against orthodox fighters. But hey, southpaw stance generally does give orthodox fighters some trouble, so if you want to use it for Pac's advantage, go for it.

Actually, if you do some digging you'll find an interview with one of Pac's sparring partners saying how surprised he was with Pac's timing.

Zab landed some very nice clean shots on Floyd with that left. And Manny is a little quicker than Zab and definitely more powerful... AND he throws in bunches AND he's all around more aggressive... This is why things are so interesting. Floyd will have a lot to deal. Floyd will get caught big at some point in the fight. I don't know how he'll do it, but I have a sinking feeling he's going to adjust and we'll see the best Floyd we've ever seen, his talent, skills and athleticism will be pushed to the limit.

Also, Floyd looks phenomenal in his last fight, truly incredible... whereas Manny didn't look as beastly as usual in the Algieri fight. Even Roach commented that Manny didn't go for the kill in the Algieri fight.

Manny needs the win more than Floyd to assure a rematch, so he can be the A side and dictate terms. But man, it's just so hard to imagine Floyd losing in Vegas.

[D4thincarnation]

So........just how does Manny fare against "that" Judah? Does he win, if so, does he squeak out a decision or is it a KO victory? Does he even win the fight at all? Personally, I think at that point in time, Pac KO's him. If they were to fight today, Pac blasts him out via 10-2 UD worst case. Does it really mean anything in the end? Probably not, just another notch in an existing pattern amongst common opposition.

Manny destroys that Judah. Judah doesn't like pressure, he like to work at his own pace. Pacquiao would not let him do that and would overwhelm him

Judah was not countering Floyd as Johnwoo8686 believes. Not sure why he said that. But he was getting off first. Firing off his quick jab. Maybe that is something Manny needs to work on because there is room for improvement.


Floyd did not make the adjustment in this fight. Roger made it, telling Floyd to pressure Judah because he could not wait on him and throw the right hand.

Now will Floyd attempt to bring the fight to Pacquiao as well if Pacquiao is getting off first and beating him to the punch?

[PAC-BOY]

cherry picker lol


dude has defeated 13 former/future world champions and titlists in a row and won a lineal title in his 18th pro fight...those must be some good trees you smoking

....I wonder what you think of the rest of the active fighters ROFL




you don't win rounds by throwing, you win them by landing


Manny has been kayoed by 2 no names, outboxed by a past prime Erik Morales and JMM(fight 3) and ko'ed by 39 year old JMM


The same can be said of Mayweather....Manny has not stepped in the ring with a fighter as smart, talented, and works as hard as money


throwing punches don't win fights, its when you throw them

lmfao...You think Floyd is smart!!!! Thats funny. Hes smart at ducking fights. Ex******ly smart in cherry picking. His oppponents are old or paid off or slow fat footed one punch at a time type fighter.

I didnt say you win fights by just throwing. duh. Are you that loopy to think that? lol But by steady making a fighter retreat or going on the defense because you cant be set to punch back...How the *** are you gonna win?

Plus Manny...unlike any other fighter Floyd has EVER fought...Is gone before a counter is even thought about firing. That pull back bullshlt Floyd uses will NEVER work with Manny. The Coward shell will Never work with Manny.

Floyd is gonna get his ass beat up!