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  • #71
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    Bro...that's sad of you


    I can understand someone saying the first fight with Castillo was a loss, hell I scored it for Castillo by 1 point, and again by 2 points and the same for Floyd and 2 other times were a draw.


    That fight was truly a tell of 3 fights....early Mayweather cruising, mid rounds Castillo coming on, late rounds both showed heart.


    If Judah got a DQ win that would have been cheaper than Montell Griffin's over Roy Jones.

    I don't know what kind of boxing fan you are but the only wins or losses I want to see are tko's, kos, and clear decisions, not some ole, he fouled him though or his trainer jumped in the ring.


    That's cheap if Judah would've fought like a man and not a boy who gets frustrated and fight dirty we wouldn't even be talking about this

    A lost is a lost, get over it and start again. Might have made Floyd more brave, instead of trying to protect that 0 for so long.

    Look at Lomachenko, gets beat in his 2nd fight, a world title fight, where the guy come in well over, doesn't even try and make weight then spend most of the fight throwing low blow with the ref never deals with.

    Doesn't let that unfair loss stop his career.


    Saying all that if Floyd would have got DQed it would not have been unfair because those are the rules of the game.

    A bit like in football and the fan invade the pitch, the club can get a 0-2 defeat.

    Control your fans, Somebody should have controlled Roger and if they couldn't then Floyd would pay the price.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
      Floyd beats Manny is my opinion. Pacquiao still can't avoid a counter right hand and Floyd throws the best counter right in boxing. Speed can be negated with timing so Pac's speed won't mean as much when up against a fighter who can control distance
      Now you're being silly... talking like it won't be Floydie's toughest fight ever. That's just ridiculous.

      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      It is easy to counter just keep your right foot outside of Floyds left. Footwork controls the distance. You really think Floyd has the better footwork? Pacquiao move while he is throwing and throws in bunches. Floyd don't want to get into a fire fight with Pacquiao. So he will hold and try and slow Pacquiao down. Hopefully there is a good ref in there that will stop Floyd from cheating.
      ^^^^ THIS ^^^^
      The ref will be as important as the fighters in this bout.

      Originally posted by Rath View Post
      Had Roger not choke Judah, Judah would not be gassing out at the later stage of the fight

      Had the commission disqualified Floyd's team for climbing up in the ring and choking Judah, Judah would have won.
      Again. Don't get an obviously paid off Kenny Bayless. Get Steve Smoger on his best night, and you will definitely see a Pac win.

      I'm not worried about whether Pac can handle Floydie. He can do that. The big question is how will this play out with Floydie's people influencing the fight? And this won't be a simple Floydie boring decision win with an asterisk. Casual fans all the way up to seasoned vet knowledgeable fans will be on the warpath if this is a b.s. decision. Obviously I hope that doesn't happen, but having seen all the crapola that Floydie pulls to hold his precious 0, I'm not ruling anything out.

      [/QUOTE] I'm glad my decision to meet with Manny and discuss making the fight happen helped get this deal done. [/QUOTE]

      What b.s., and typical of the huge ego this guy has. Manny followed the guy around to basically force a confrontation, at a big event where Floydie couldn't just slink away. Pac's moves were the game changer. Pac had to concede right and left.. or we'd still have had no fight. Floydie made NO decision to do anything other than meet him, or be forever embarrassed. Pac is the guy wearing white in this equation. Make no mistake. But still, bottom line, at least we have the fight now. Now Floydie can't run anymore. Judgement day coming for the egomaniac.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        A lost is a lost, get over it and start again. Might have made Floyd more brave, instead of trying to protect that 0 for so long.

        Look at Lomachenko, gets beat in his 2nd fight, a world title fight, where the guy come in well over, doesn't even try and make weight then spend most of the fight throwing low blow with the ref never deals with.

        Doesn't let that unfair loss stop his career.


        Saying all that if Floyd would have got DQed it would not have been unfair because those are the rules of the game.

        A bit like in football and the fan invade the pitch, the club can get a 0-2 defeat.

        Control your fans, Somebody should have controlled Roger and if they couldn't then Floyd would pay the price.




        Protect his "0"....you do realize dude has fought 13 former or current world champions/titlists in a row and won a lineal title in his 18th pro fight. Actually watch his fights and follow his career instead of listen to what someone told you.


        you don't even make sense....I bet you wouldn't care if Mayweather kicked Manny's ass from pillar to post and got robbed.....if Manny got robbed you'd probably have a stroke.


        Youre not a true boxing fan man...I don't want to see no fighter lose a fight they are winning by a cheap technicality or robbery

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
          I watched the fight two weeks ago, after seeing it 3 other times. No need to rewatch it. HBO didn't give Judah more than 4 rounds. And he was outlanded by a wide margin. Manny has to do something which has never been done (at 36 years of age). Floyd just has to do what even two over the hill fighters were able to do (Morales and Marquez)

          I'll give you this one for free. Judah main weapon was not countering Floyd, it was beating him to the punch. Floyd was waiting on him to counter, and Judah's speed was too quick so Floyd could not get his counters off

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          • #75
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post




            Protect his "0"....you do realize dude has fought 13 former or current world champions/titlists in a row and won a lineal title in his 18th pro fight. Actually watch his fights and follow his career instead of listen to what someone told you.


            you don't even make sense....I bet you wouldn't care if Mayweather kicked Manny's ass from pillar to post and got robbed.....if Manny got robbed you'd probably have a stroke.


            Youre not a true boxing fan man...I don't want to see no fighter lose a fight they are winning by a cheap technicality or robbery

            Manny did get robbed against Bradley. I did not have a stroke.

            The Rules need to be followed
            Last edited by D4thincarnation; 02-21-2015, 10:51 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              I'll give you this one for free. Judah main weapon was not countering Floyd, it was beating him to the punch. Floyd was waiting on him to counter, and Judah's speed was too quick so Floyd could not get his counters off
              the point is Mayweather is the caliber of fighter where doing the same thing for 12 rounds is not going to work


              ODLH....throw hard jabs and flurries when Mayweather is against the ropes....Mayweather took away the jab by jabbing with him, to the head and body, timely counters and bodyshots.......his critics say ODLH got tired and stopped throwing the jab.....news flash, missing punches is more tiring than landing them

              Maidana....He would have won if Mayweather didn't run....he got his back off the ropes and stayed in ring center and adapted.....critics...he ran the last half of the fight


              Hatton...the ref, the weight class....Hatton turned pro 10 pounds heavier, and had faaaaaaar more fights at 140 and above....he adapted and tapped that ass


              Manny doesn't change up his game plan mid fight, Mayweather does it every fight...that will be the difference....their ring iq....not speed, power, endurance, etc


              when he beats Pac-Man they already have, ready made excuses....rinse, wash, repeat


              Money wont fight him though....he signs to fight....excuses and doubts arise...neverending story

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              • #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I'm sure arum's matchmakers felt now was the best time to make the fight after seeing floyd v maidana 1 and 2 last year.

                If not, there'd be a stadium needed or some stitches or testing cutoff issues.

                I'm just glad the fight is on.
                Haha lol right on with that one because that is the truth. Not saying the same does not apply to floyd...best believe that both these guys and their respective parties saw some foibles to exploite.

                The madianna fight does tell us some possabilites but there are a lot of differences! madianna is stronger, has less stamina and fights ackward... a prime floyd does not get touched by madianna, i.e. a prime floyd would have used legs not hands to beat Madianna. Now pack? well, he better not have lost a step.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  the point is Mayweather is the caliber of fighter where doing the same thing for 12 rounds is not going to work


                  ODLH....throw hard jabs and flurries when Mayweather is against the ropes....Mayweather took away the jab by jabbing with him, to the head and body, timely counters and bodyshots.......his critics say ODLH got tired and stopped throwing the jab.....news flash, missing punches is more tiring than landing them

                  Maidana....He would have won if Mayweather didn't run....he got his back off the ropes and stayed in ring center and adapted.....critics...he ran the last half of the fight


                  Hatton...the ref, the weight class....Hatton turned pro 10 pounds heavier, and had faaaaaaar more fights at 140 and above....he adapted and tapped that ass


                  Manny doesn't change up his game plan mid fight, Mayweather does it every fight...that will be the difference....their ring iq....not speed, power, endurance, etc

                  So what did Floyd do to adapt?

                  Roach will be working on these things. Manny can switch it up as well to keep Floyd from adjusting.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    I'll give you this one for free. Judah main weapon was not countering Floyd, it was beating him to the punch. Floyd was waiting on him to counter, and Judah's speed was too quick so Floyd could not get his counters off
                    You clearly don't know how to analyze a fight man. Beating someone to the punch is more what Maidana did to Broner not what Judah did to Money. Judah played counter puncher and that is what troubled Floyd.

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                    • #80
                      First Floyd is afraid of Pac and won't make the fight, then Floyd was forced to sign the contract and will get beat, but after Floyd wins Pac will be a bum and Floyd will get no credit, AMIRITE?

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