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  • #71
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    After Avalos - he'll have a straight choice of Quigg or Rigondeaux. It's obvious which one he should take. And at least he still can fight Rigondeaux.

    Bradley sat out and fought nobody for months then fought a stoned fossil. He could have fought Khan and then signed with Top Rank in that time. Signing with Top Rank immediately killed the chance of the Khan fight happening. It's been 4 years now and they still haven't fought.

    You have not covered yourself in glory here
    Bradley had a straight choice of taking the Khan fight or signing with Top Rank who promised him Pacquiao. It's obvious which one he should take. He was sidelined for a while because of the legal BS with Gary Shaw. Khan just moved up to 147 last year so there hasn't really been a realistic opportunity to make the fight and then he signed with Haymon virtually killing all possibilities.

    There is no way around it. Frampton is making a good bidness decision just like Bradley made a good bidness decision.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by PBP View Post
      Bradley had a straight choice of taking the Khan fight or signing with Top Rank who promised him Pacquiao. It's obvious which one he should take. He was sidelined for a while because of the legal BS with Gary Shaw. Khan just moved up to 147 last year so there hasn't really been a realistic opportunity to make the fight and then he signed with Haymon virtually killing all possibilities.

      There is no way around it. Frampton is making a good bidness decision just like Bradley made a good bidness decision.
      How was he promised Pacquaio?

      The only way ducking Khan was a good business decision was because he thought he'd lose or atleast thought there was a good chance he'd lose.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        Oh dear. Frampton won the belt in September, got an injury and now has a mandatory against Avalos.

        Tim Bradley called out Khan on HBO. Got offered his highest payday April/May 2011 to fight Khan in June. He turned it down, sat on the shelf, turned it down again, VOLUNTARILY fought a shot to ****, decrepit and stoned Casamayor in December 2011 and then luckily got the Pacquaio fight in June 2012 after several others had turned it down.

        Same situation doe.

        Horrendous fail.
        Yeah it's defintely not the same.

        Bradley didn't chose Pacquaio over Khan.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          How was he promised Pacquaio?

          The only way ducking Khan was a good business decision was because he thought he'd lose or atleast thought there was a good chance he'd lose.
          I don't have copies of the contracts but the sequence of events speak for itself.

          Duck a nice payday ----> sign with Top Rank ----> Tune up on Manny's undercard --->> earn a bigger payday

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          • #75
            Originally posted by PBP View Post
            Bradley had a straight choice of taking the Khan fight or signing with Top Rank who promised him Pacquiao. It's obvious which one he should take. He was sidelined for a while because of the legal BS with Gary Shaw. Khan just moved up to 147 last year so there hasn't really been a realistic opportunity to make the fight and then he signed with Haymon virtually killing all possibilities.

            There is no way around it. Frampton is making a good bidness decision just like Bradley made a good bidness decision.
            Blatantly not true.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by PBP View Post
              I don't have copies of the contracts but the sequence of events speak for itself.

              Duck a nice payday ----> sign with Top Rank ----> Tune up on Manny's undercard --->> earn a bigger payday
              He ducked Khan before He even signed with Top Rank though.

              He was on Manny's undercard, but what does that mean? Danny Garcia was on Floyd's undercard.

              When it came to the fight happening, Bradley wasn't first choice, hell, he wasn't even second choice. He was third choice aka last and worst case scenario.

              I can't see how he was promised a fight with Pacquaio considering that. I mean sure, he probably thought he'd get it somewhere but no way guaranteed.

              He even said on the first episode of 24/7 "I was shocked when I got the call"

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              • #77
                PBP trying to revise history

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  He ducked Khan before He even signed with Top Rank though.
                  Not really. He was involved in a legal battle with Gary Shaw. Once his legal troubles were fixed he signed with Top Rank.

                  He was on Manny's undercard, but what does that mean? Danny Garcia was on Floyd's undercard.

                  When it came to the fight happening, Bradley wasn't first choice, hell, he wasn't even second choice. He was third choice aka last and worst case scenario.
                  Of course Floyd was the first choice but Arum couldn't get his stadium finished in time. **wink**


                  I can't see how he was promised a fight with Pacquaio considering that. I mean sure, he probably thought he'd get it somewhere but no way garanteed.

                  He even said on the first episode of 24/7 "I was shocked when I got the call"
                  Because that's what he was supposed to say. Arum was clearly building up a Pacquiao/Bradley fight from the moment he signed him. His stable was thin.

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                  • #79
                    No he's not overrated, look at the guys record closely. He has some very good wins in there and one great one even though we know it's not really legit.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
                      He was the best JWW in the world when he fought there. The WW division has turned him into a middle of the pack fighter.
                      not really, bradley is the 3rd best welter on the planet, his win over jmm coming off that pac ko is bigger than anything khan, maidana, brook or porter have done at the weight.

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