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  • #61
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Be realistic. Frampton has been injured. Rigondeaux fought at the end of December. They were going to make a unification of that magnitude fight for February? There was no offer from either side as there was for Bradley to fight Khan. Frampton has to fight Avalos at some point who is a top 5 Super Bantamweight. He didn't sit out for a year and then cherry pick a shot to ****, stoned fighter.

    Just such a poor comparison on so many levels but I'll give you 4/10 for effort.
    So biased.

    Bradley signed to Top Rank, took a spot on Manny's undercard to build the fight for a later date. Why take the Khan fight when the Pacquiao fight was on the table?


    If your going to support good bidness decisions be consistent.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by PBP View Post
      So biased.

      Bradley signed to Top Rank, took a spot on Manny's undercard to build the fight for a later date. Why take the Khan fight when the Pacquiao fight was on the table?


      If your going to support good bidness decisions be consistent.
      I get your view... you should have no problem then if Cotto is not signing up to face Canelo or GGG since he's waiting for Floyd then right? It's the same scenario really.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
        I get your view... you should have no problem then if Cotto is not signing up to face Canelo or GGG since he's waiting for Floyd then right? It's the same scenario really.
        No you got me all wrong. Bradley ducked Khan. I want to see matchups not good bidness decisions.

        Dirk on the other hand, supports good bidness decisions for his favorite fighters but accuses fighters he doesn't like of ducking.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by PBP View Post
          So biased.

          Bradley signed to Top Rank, took a spot on Manny's undercard to build the fight for a later date. Why take the Khan fight when the Pacquiao fight was on the table?


          If your going to support good bidness decisions be consistent.
          Khan-Bradley was supposed to happen in July 2011 - he fought Pacquaio in June 2012. He couldn't have fought Khan in that year? If Frampton sits on the sidelines and fights washed up, pothead fighters for a year then I will start to see your point.

          A good bidness decision would have been to take what was offered to him which was his highest payday ever against Khan - 50% of the UK revenue FFS!! That was on the table and he turned it down long before he signed with Top Rank. The Pacquiao fight was absolutely not on the table at that point.

          If he'd beat Khan and walked to Top Rank as the undisputed Junior Welterweight Champion having knocked off GBP's golden goose, he'd have got an even better deal.

          So all in all, it was a pretty poor bidness decision based on his lack of confidence of beating Amir Khan.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Khan-Bradley was supposed to happen in July 2011 - he fought Pacquaio in June 2012. He couldn't have fought Khan in that year? If Frampton sits on the sidelines and fights washed up, pothead fighters for a year then I will start to see your point.

            A good bidness decision would have been to take what was offered to him which was his highest payday ever against Khan - 50% of the UK revenue FFS!! That was on the table and he turned it down long before he signed with Top Rank. The Pacquiao fight was absolutely not on the table at that point.

            If he'd beat Khan and walked to Top Rank as the undisputed Junior Welterweight Champion having knocked off GBP's golden goose, he'd have got an even better deal.

            So all in all, it was a pretty poor bidness decision based on his lack of confidence of beating Amir Khan.
            So according to your logic, good bidness decision for Frampton would be to beat Rigondeaux, become the unified, lineal champion having knocked off the divisions boogey man, and make the Quigg fight even bigger, correct?

            And how was it a poor bidness decision when he's been on 3 PPVs and made more money over the last 3 years than most fighters do in their whole careers?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by PBP View Post
              So according to your logic, good bidness decision for Frampton would be to beat Rigondeaux, become the unified, lineal champion having knocked off the divisions boogey man, and make the Quigg fight even bigger, correct?

              And how was it a poor bidness decision when he's been on 3 PPVs and made more money over the last 3 years than most fighters do in their whole careers?
              Fight Rigondeaux when? Please be realistic. Bradley literally went on HBO and said that he was fighting July and called out Khan. This actually took place.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                Fight Rigondeaux when? Please be realistic.
                At this point after Avalos

                Bradley literally went on HBO and said that he was fighting July and called out Khan. This actually took place.
                And then he signed to Top Rank who had a better bidness opportunity for him.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by PBP View Post
                  At this point after Avalos



                  And then he signed to Top Rank who had a better bidness opportunity for him.
                  After Avalos - he'll have a straight choice of Quigg or Rigondeaux. It's obvious which one he should take. And at least he still can fight Rigondeaux.

                  Bradley sat out and fought nobody for months then fought a stoned fossil. He could have fought Khan and then signed with Top Rank in that time. Signing with Top Rank immediately killed the chance of the Khan fight happening. It's been 4 years now and they still haven't fought.

                  You have not covered yourself in glory here

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                  • #69
                    Some people overrate him when they try to make him out to be some master, slick boxer. However, I think he's actually an overachiever and has done great in boxing despite a lot of flaws and no outstanding attribute other than perhaps stamina.

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                    • #70
                      I would have said underrated before that Margarito thread today. When people assume Bradley can outbox prime Antonio Margarito, who is one of the worst possible matchups for him, then yeah, he's overrated.

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