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  • therealpugilist
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    #201
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    rank erik morales, jose luis castillo and jose luis ramirez. 1 to 3.
    1)Morales 2)Ramirez 3)Jose Luis Castillo

    the fights between these 3 would be epic

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #202
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Always the way

      I had the same for Rocky Lockridge after he knocked out Roger Mayweather.

      My other favourite fighter from my first era aswell as Arguello (Carlos Monzon) didnt really lose at his peak so I didn't have that then. Same with Arguello other than Pyror.

      Arguello for me is the most beautiful fighter to watch. I already watched Boxing from a very young age (Cooper, Ali, Liston etc) but it wasn't until I saw Arguello as a young teen that I really fell in love. I really was gob smacked when I first saw him fight.
      you must be older.

      i saw a lot of mid 80's-early 90's stuff.

      not much mid-late 90's (not home to see fights)

      then got back into it early 2000's.

      pre 1985 fights i saw videos as a kid.

      hbo use to have bomb boxing vhs tapes.

      especially their career tapes.

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      • malcolm
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        #203
        Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
        that's why its hard to build the argument for Floyd
        It's not hard to build the argument at all.

        Who is Pac's best win? An old Barrera or a shot Morales? Or maybe the Hatton that got his 0 snatched from him by Mayweather? Maybe it was DLH? Or Cotto?

        Mayweather has a number of career defining wins under his belt. Genaro Hernandez, JMM, Jose Castillo II and Canelo Alvarez, Shane Mosley all come to mind.

        It's like if DURAN or HAGLER aren't in your WIN column then your championship reign means nothing. LOL

        Hatton, Corrales and Canelo were all undefeated WORLD CHAMPIONS when Mayweather beat them.

        How many undefeated champions has Pac or any modern day champion defeated?

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          #204
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          you must be older.

          i saw a lot of mid 80's-early 90's stuff.

          not much mid-late 90's (not home to see fights)

          then got back into it early 2000's.

          pre 1985 fights i saw videos as a kid.

          hbo use to have bomb boxing vhs tapes.

          especially their career tapes.
          Born 1960. Too young to remember the 60's outside of Cooper, Ali and Liston.

          I watched tapes as a kid though of Louis, Robinson, Charles, Marciano etc etc etc my uncle had a collection of the older champions.

          Some rare stuff too.

          Long gone now though.

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            #205
            Originally posted by malcolm


            It's not hard to build the argument at all.

            Who is Pac's best win? An old Barrera or a shot Morales? Or maybe the Hatton that got his 0 snatched from him by Mayweather? Maybe it was DLH? Or Cotto?

            Mayweather has a number of career defining wins under his belt. Genaro Hernandez, JMM, Jose Castillo II and Canelo Alvarez, Shane Mosley all come to mind.

            It's like if DURAN or HAGLER aren't in your WIN column then your championship reign means nothing. LOL

            Hatton, Corrales and Canelo were all undefeated WORLD CHAMPIONS when Mayweather beat them.

            How many undefeated champions has Pac or any modern day champion defeated?
            Algeri was an undefeated world champion. "Undefeated world champion" what does that mean?

            Bradley was an undefeated world champion.

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            • MrTambourineMan
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              #206
              Originally posted by malcolm


              It's not hard to build the argument at all.

              Who is Pac's best win? An old Barrera or a shot Morales? Or maybe the Hatton that got his 0 snatched from him by Mayweather? Maybe it was DLH? Or Cotto?

              Mayweather has a number of career defining wins under his belt. Genaro Hernandez, JMM, Jose Castillo II and Canelo Alvarez, Shane Mosley all come to mind.

              It's like if DURAN or HAGLER aren't in your WIN column then your championship reign means nothing. LOL

              Hatton, Corrales and Canelo were all undefeated WORLD CHAMPIONS when Mayweather beat them.

              How many undefeated champions has Pac or any modern day champion defeated?
              Are you another Alt like Murka?

              Your reasoning is exactly like Murka's.

              If you are legit - I suggest you take a step back. Study the sport. And come to the the fruition that Floyd really isn't the be all and end all of life.

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              • malcolm
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                #207
                Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                yea...that doesn't really scream 'greatest of our generation'
                So what screams greatest of our generation?

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by malcolm


                  It's not hard to build the argument at all.

                  Who is Pac's best win? An old Barrera or a shot Morales? Or maybe the Hatton that got his 0 snatched from him by Mayweather? Maybe it was DLH? Or Cotto?

                  Mayweather has a number of career defining wins under his belt. Genaro Hernandez, JMM, Jose Castillo II and Canelo Alvarez, Shane Mosley all come to mind.

                  It's like if DURAN or HAGLER aren't in your WIN column then your championship reign means nothing. LOL

                  Hatton, Corrales and Canelo were all undefeated WORLD CHAMPIONS when Mayweather beat them.

                  How many undefeated champions has Pac or any modern day champion defeated?
                  If I'm not mistaken wasn't Barrera ranked in the top 3 p4p or something when 24yr old green Pac faced him? He was coming off a string of wins including Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia and Kevin Kelley . Has Floyd ever faced a prime great like that?

                  Hatton wasn't any different when Pac faced him, he didn't suddenly become a different fighter like u claim and Pac demolished him in 2 rounds.

                  Cotto was younger and got demolished by Pac and Floyd had trouble with him, albeit beating him clearly.

                  Canelo never beat anyone great and the jury is still out on him, he barely got past Trout who isn't really any good and hasn't clearly beat a good fighter. Pac beat JMM when he was younger and he beat a prime Bradley who is p4p better than Canelo imo.

                  There's many champions with multiple belts so I don't put too much weight into that, it's more about how good the opponent is.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by malcolm
                    So what screams greatest of our generation?


                    not Floyd's resume i'll tell you that...heck, Roy having Hopkins and Toney on his resume is better than what Floyd has

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by malcolm
                      So what screams greatest of our generation?
                      Well, you scream it whenever you see Floyd.

                      That's the difference.

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