better career ?calzaghe or ward

[bluebeam]

I had Hopkins beating joe 114-113.

6 rounds a piece. hopkins winning due too the knockdown in round 1.

the Kessler win was a great win for calzaghe, but the roy jones win means nothing.


calzaghe's resume is overrated.

calzaghe beating Kessler is equal too ward beating froch

[Box-Office]

Calzaghe at the moment obviously.

Ward's best win is what? Kessler? A guy who Calzaghe undressed and outclassed years earlier. Or Froch who fought on fairly even terms with Kessler over 24 rounds.

Calzaghe also went up and captured the Light Heavyweight Title. Something Ward has yet to do.

Thing is Ward dominated him with a broken left hand (in two places.)

[Japanese Boxing]

Ward, and H2H he'd make Zags look ******. Just people Ward hasn't fought people seem to forget how incredibly talented he is. He's the best boxer in the world unless something has changed.

[Luilun]

Ward has done nothing for 3 years he has a long way to go

[atomicsad]

Ward beat the better opposition but Joe's lasted longer.

[IronDanHamza]

The poll says 168 lb career.

If it's 168 lb career then it's defintely Ward.

[mikinoki]

If wards career ended today
who is ranked higher???

it's a litlle unfair to ward cuz he hasn't finished his career.I have joe ahed so far cuz his career is over and perfect...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

froch and kessler may be on a similar level head to head but froch has a much better resume and is a much better fighter overall. just like robin reid and calzaghe were on a similar level head to head but no one thinks robin reid is as good as calzaghe.

Calzaghe has a deeper resume but guys like mitchell and brewer really aren't stand outs in any sense. A guy like abraham is probably above them. Ward has 2 great wins to calzaghe's 1. Calzaghe has more Ok wins but Ok wins are a lot easier to get. Great careers aren't made on ok wins. Leonard had a short career and had 4 great wins(maybe even 5 if you count lineal champ kalule) So basically Leonard is better than ward and calzaghe. that was the topic right?

Froch has a better resume than Kessler but he didn't prove to be a much better fighter over 24 rounds. Calzaghe fought Reid with an injured hand in one close fight, Reid was a good fighter at 168 and was WBC champion before facing Calzaghe and got robbed against Ottke post-Calzaghe.

Abraham has no great pedigree at 168. He'd just got comprehensively taken to school by both Dirrell and Froch before Ward got to him.

Calzaghe's resume at Ward's age was ***in terrible, admittedly. I used to **** on him but he did what he had to do in the end and unified the division in convincing fashion. Moved up and fought the no.1 guy at LHW in his first fight there and won the title - you're obviously gonna disagree on that - but on face value, Ward hasn't done anything like that yet. He won't even move up yet.

Dirk getting smacked around by daguum

Someone call the cops. This is getting embarassing for dirk

Jas sucking everyone's **** in a thread again.

Someone get the paramedics to pump the cum out of Jas' stomach.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ward, and H2H he'd make Zags look ******. Just people Ward hasn't fought people seem to forget how incredibly talented he is. He's the best boxer in the world unless something has changed.

Based on what? Who has Ward fought let alone "made look ******" that has Calzaghe's style? I still rate Ward in the top 3 in the world but his resume is being ridiculously overrated.

He's looked great against slow, stiff fighters. He's never faced anyone with genuine speed unless you count Chad Raisin. He's never faced anyone who throws 1000 slaps per fight or has good in and out footwork.

Calzaghe-Ward would likely be an ugly close affair

[#1Assassin]

ward by far. calzaghes resume is terrible considering the status he has.

when people feel a need to mention fighters like jeff lacy on your resume, that alone is a huge red flag. you dont see people making a big deal over wins of that caliber in other "great" fighters careers. look at ward, guys like rodriquez and miranda are both better than lacy but you never see a ward fan claiming he is great because of either of those wins. yet you catch calzaghe fans acting like beating lacy was one of the great performances in recent boxing history and is a huge notch on his belt all the time. its not, its a standard filler opponent.

kessler was always overrated, although i admit that was a decent/good win (far from great). roy was dead, hopkins was past his prime and still clearly won imo..

all things considered, like i said his resume is just terrible.

wards isnt great but he does have that one truly great performance against froch, something calzaghe lacks imo. abraham and kessler arent great fghters by any means but they are world class and they are dangerous if nothing else. the way ward handled both with relative ease makes for two decent wins.

add bika, green and the aforementioned miranda and rodriguez as passable filler type opposition and you have a solid resume all in all. again, im not saying these last four wins are something you can support a legacy on by itself. but a few wins like that still add to the overall career provided you have the big wins to go along. calzaghe lacks a clean, impressive win against a truly great fighter. hell, he lacks a real win against a truly great fighter, period.

he doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as ward as far as im concerned.