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  • Southern Sniper
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    #61
    Cowardzaghe had a fear of flying for most of his career.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #62
      Originally posted by Southern Sniper
      Cowardzaghe had a fear of flying for most of his career.
      Calzaghe fought outside his home country several times. How bout Ward?

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      • lefthook2daliva
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        #63
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        That wasn't the question.
        Yeah you're right. But that doesn't make it inaccurate.

        For me, right now it's gotta be Joe; he holds a decision (even if I think it a relatively poor one) over BHop, which trumps anything Ward has yet done. As to Joe having the better Kessler win, I think Ward balances it with the Froch win, which imo is better than any win Joe has except Hopkins.

        Thing all you roasbeefs gotta remember is that Joe is done. Andre may get alot more done before he hangs em' up and we'll be revisiting this topic at that time. Bank on it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Calzaghe fought outside his home country several times. How bout Ward?
          Yes, twice.

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            #65
            in the super 6 alone andre ward fought more quality fighters than joe calzaghe did in his career

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              #66
              Originally posted by jas
              Calzaghe.

              Would ward make it to the HOF if he retired today?
              calzaghe doesn't belong in the hof

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              • Southern Sniper
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                #67
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Calzaghe fought outside his home country several times. How bout Ward?
                I guess Cowardzaghe now gets credit for driving a few hours within the UK. Ward has logged more travelling miles.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by tocayito1
                  calzaghe doesn't belong in the hof
                  The Newbridge Wales hof maybe more appropriate.

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by tocayito1
                    in the super 6 alone andre ward fought more quality fighters than joe calzaghe did in his career
                    Really? Who? Calzaghe could never compete with wins like Kessler and Bika....oh wait...

                    Originally posted by Southern Sniper
                    I guess Cowardzaghe now gets credit for driving a few hours within the UK. Ward has logged more travelling miles.
                    I don't really care where a fight is held but Calzaghe also fought in Germany and Denmark as well as America.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Lacy was overrated by Americans. He was still a good fighter who came to the UK full of confidence which was beaten out of him forever that night.

                      Whereas you're trying to compare him to a guy like Miranda who was completely shot and devoid of confidence when he fought Ward.

                      Chad Raisin was a walking dead man at 168lbs btw.
                      There is no real logic to assuming Dawson was unable and Lacy was "good." Your support of lacy comes from paper titles not performance. Dawson performed as an elite fighter before he was bested.

                      But alas the argument here is silly because both guys as said, had real problems. What one cannot do though is elevate the win over Lacy and then say this is better than Ward's win over Dawson.

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