Comments Thread For: SHO VP: Mayweaher Wants Pacquiao Fight Badly!

[Sweet Pea 50]

Well im convinced

now who do I give my money to to watch the Cotto rematch ?

[PivotandRoll]

Arum is the worst! I think Moonves has done a good job, thus far, keeping the media silence, and keeping Floyd silent at the same time. However, no one can control Arum's mouth, and that could be bad. I would love to hear from Freddie Roach right now, since it was he who set up the meeting with Arum and Moonves. I think Roach's comments could put some pressure on Arum, or at least put Arum on notice that his PR stunts aren't going to work. Arum might feel he doesn't need Haymon, but Roach has fighters who do!

Arum is of course at fault but more so the puppets who continue to believe his misinformation. I also don't believe that Arum is trying to protect Manny, I believe he really hates Floyd and he knows that Floyd's career will always be in question(by casuals) if he(Arum) blocks the fight, this on top of not wanting Floyd to profit from any business he is involved in are the reason it hasn't happened IMO.

[Mayabang]

Mayweather doesnt want the Pacquaio fight badly, if he did he would have the fight already made. It has been said over and over that Mayweather is his own boss, so how can a boss wants something so badly that can come to fruition with his OK but yet it still just a doesnt get made?

Don't you know that the 'I'm my own boss' arguement only applies when it comes to money split, gloves, catchweight, and ringsize?

[Yogi007]

I really don't know why you didn't just post the full interview instead of starting two threads of the same interview with Espinoza

There for a while, I thought all these people were doing is sitting around giving interviews. I kept thinking that they need to stop with the interviews and get to work on getting this deal done. Then I seen a couple of the original interviews on other sites, then I realized that they would take one interview and make 25 stories out of it. It is freaking crazy. I even said it in a couple of other threads about them pulling 1 or 2 lines out of a story, adding a bunch of background filler to it, to make a whole new article out of it.

[PivotandRoll]

Well im convinced

now who do I give my money to to watch the Cotto rematch ?

When do I get to hear Marquez's annual refusal of a Pacquiao rematch? Funny how Marquez is the one trying to fight Brook and not Manny....Vargas is young doe, Vargas is hungry doe.

Maybe the two best fighters on the planet aren't cowards? Maybe they have more confidence in their own ability than any of us could imagine? Maybe this is all about money..... you know, CREAM.

GGG stay ducking Lara.

[Bronx2245]

Arum is of course at fault but more so the puppets who continue to believe his misinformation. I also don't believe that Arum is trying to protect Manny, I believe he really hates Floyd and he knows that Floyd's career will always be in question(by casuals) if he(Arum) blocks the fight, this on top of not wanting Floyd to profit from any business he is involved in are the reason it hasn't happened IMO.

I don't know if Arum hates Floyd personally, but what I believe he does hate, is what Oscar, Floyd, and Cotto represent: fighters who take control of their own destiny, rather than to remain under the control of their promoters, especially him. For those who would ask "why would he(Arum) do that?" just look at "why" he didn't make the De La Hoya vs. Mayweather fight:

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road..."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

[PivotandRoll]

There for a while, I thought all these people were doing is sitting around giving interviews. I kept thinking that they need to stop with the interviews and get to work on getting this deal done. Then I seen a couple of the original interviews on other sites, then I realized that they would take one interview and make 25 stories out of it. It is freaking crazy. I even said it in a couple of other threads about them pulling 1 or 2 lines out of a story, adding a bunch of background filler to it, to make a whole new article out of it.

That's what news writing is. That's what ANY journalist working in boxing would have done. What you should be asking is why none ever have the balls to actually question Arum. They should be ashamed.

[PivotandRoll]

This isn't something new from Arum.....the following is an excerpt from an article about the snake "making" this fight


Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging.

He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.

Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.

Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.

That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.

Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.

When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.


THIS IS NOT SHOWTIME OR FLOYD, this is a Top Rank writer back in 2010

[PivotandRoll]

I don't know if Arum hates Floyd personally, but what I believe he does hate, is what Oscar, Floyd, and Cotto represent: fighters who take control of their own destiny, rather than to remain under the control of their promoters, especially him. For those who would ask "why would he(Arum) do that?" just look at "why" he didn't make the De La Hoya vs. Mayweather fight:

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road..."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

Great, Great post. I didn't actually mean personally but it would not surprise me considering Arums age and upbringing if he ha a hard time of thinking of Floyd/Manny and Cotto as much more than the "help".

Just like to clarify that I'm not suggesting that Arum is racist, More of a class dynamic is what I had in mind.

[-PBP-]

Well not bad enough.

Everybody involved should be blamed. Taking advantage of a "sport" with no governing body or regulations.